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Re: Using TypeScript to obtain one of the rarest license plates

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Post by chatmasta »

zzo38computer wrote: post #132

What character set does it use? For example, can "O" and "0" considered different characters or same character, and are some letters/numbers not used? If so, then how many they say are possible is not quite that simple, since some might match (so they cannot simply be added together) and some might not be possible.

I was hoping “using TypeScript” was going to be more along these lines, i.e. using the type system as a constraint solver for some combination of homoglyphs that resembles a target string.

Re: Using TypeScript to obtain one of the rarest license plates

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Post by brewtide »

qingcharles wrote: post #76
danvayn wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They can say no. These Prisons incentivize inmates to opt in by claiming that prisoners develop employable marketable skills and that the work leaves a a good mark on their record. It can also pay out cents to a few dollars an hour (or nothing at all) It’s not quite slave labor but it probably should be compensated better at the minimum.

They certainly can say no in a lot of states, but that is often very much against the best interests of the prisoner because almost all work programs shorten your sentence. I knew one guy who was doing a 30 day jail sentence for some misdemeanor and was told they would reduce it to 14 days if he worked in the kitchen. He took the job and lost most of his thumb in a very unsafe meat slicer. This put his 17 year career…

This is very unrelated in most ways, but when I was 9 I managed to take a hatchet and remove about 1/4" off my left thumb (via cutting bailing twine against a tree, and apparently terrible, terrible aim).

I'm far older than 9 now, and the tip of my left thumb still gets very cold in the winter and if I directly bump it into something, it hurts a whole heck of a lot.

Rant is because while that moment sucked pretty hard (I immediately put my thumb in my mouth, eating the bit of thumb apparently..) it didn't take very long for me to realize that any lower and it would have certainly been a life changing event.

Bad aim, but in the best way possible.

I can only imagine the difference. Has to be harsh.

Re: Using TypeScript to obtain one of the rarest license plates

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Post by 0xffff2 »

OptionOfT wrote: post #119
alexfoo wrote: post #58

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> One thing that stopped me from seeking the vanity plate I'm sure it differs between countries but in the UK vanity plates have become reasonably contentious. As a gross generalisation they're fine if the car is worth hundreds of thousands or the plate itself is worth hundreds of thousands. The UK plate "F1" last sold for just under £1m (about US$1.3m) over 10 years ago and it's rumoured that there are offers for te…

In CA and AZ vanity plates are first come, first served. You cannot sell them either. You either keep them on a car, or you can keep on paying to keep it out of circulation forever. But once you give it up it goes back to the pool, and someone can get it. Also, my vanity plate is $0 more than a normal plate. Why wouldn't I?

I guess you're in AZ? In CA, the absurd yearly cost is enough to keep me from bothering with anything more than the basic olates.

Re: Using TypeScript to obtain one of the rarest license plates

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Post by SirSavary »

embedding-shape wrote: post #16
hippich wrote: post #2

One thing that stopped me from seeking the vanity plate - I learned that at least in Texas all plates are made by minimally paid prisoners. So any desire to finance that system beyond what's absolute possible minimum (i.e. regular plates) evaporated.

> I learned that at least in Texas all plates are made by minimally paid prisoners Lol, wasn't slavery outlawed in the US, or were some states still allowed to keep it? That's absolutely bananas if true.

> The Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution abolished slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_Un...

Re: Using TypeScript to obtain one of the rarest license plates

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Post by hn_acc1 »

0xffff2 wrote: post #143
OptionOfT wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In CA and AZ vanity plates are first come, first served. You cannot sell them either. You either keep them on a car, or you can keep on paying to keep it out of circulation forever. But once you give it up it goes back to the pool, and someone can get it. Also, my vanity plate is $0 more than a normal plate. Why wouldn't I?

I guess you're in AZ? In CA, the absurd yearly cost is enough to keep me from bothering with anything more than the basic olates.

This. When I moved from Ontario, Canada (where they charge a yearly fee for them), to CA, I was all excited to get a vanity plate - until I saw they also charge a yearly fee..

In the most ironic twist of all - Ontario did away with license plate renewals a few years ago, and now, I would actually consider a vanity plate..

I've always wondered if a regular plate was better for avoiding speeding tickets - a vanity plate is much easier to validate, IMHO.

Re: Using TypeScript to obtain one of the rarest license plates

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Post by MangoToupe »

reactordev wrote: post #60
MangoToupe wrote: post #25

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Even our legal system recognizes it as slave labor. The thirteenth amendment specifically says: "neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."

yes but except as a punishment for crime whereof has been refined with further case law I believe. You can be forced to do small jobs, clean up. You can be assigned Road Crew and pickup trash. You can do small jobs that the system won't hire and pay for, they'll use you. So long as you aren't a risk of flight, to the officers, or to society if you have to interact with the public. Beats sitting in a cinderblock white…

I would certainly prefer to jerk off in my cell over working for pennies on the dollar.

But it doesn't matter, really. Either we have rights as humans or we don't. Qualifying them erodes protections for us all.

Re: Using TypeScript to obtain one of the rarest license plates

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Post by phyzome »

consp wrote: post #85
cyral wrote: post #59

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Different scenario but it reminds me of when Missouri prosecuted a reporter who found that teacher's SSN numbers were exposed in the HTML of a webpage > "Parson described the journalist as a “perpetrator” who “took the records of at least three educators, decoded the HTML source code, and viewed the Social Security number of those specific educators” in an “attempt to steal personal information and harm Missourians.”…

Isn't html copyrightable and thus it is a publication? (And thus exposed by the author). Or am I in the wrong ballpark here?

No. Imagine you wrote a personal diary entry in a text file on your computer, and only afterwards wrapped it in HTML tags. Did you just make it a document intended for broad publication?

Re: Using TypeScript to obtain one of the rarest license plates

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Post by array_key_first »

Aurornis wrote: post #42
embedding-shape wrote: post #17

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> Yes, it’s borderline slave labor I'm sorry, how is it "borderline" slave labour and not straight up forced labour? These people are imprisoned, and I'm assuming forced to do this work, or what happens if they say no? It's quite literally known as "penal labour" and I thought most of the world figured out that we're not supposed to treat people like that anymore.

> These people are imprisoned, and I'm assuming forced to do this work This is an incorrect assumption, at least in my state. It’s a job that they can apply for and opt in to do. The debate is about their hourly wage. There is a possibility of forced penal labor, as I understand it, but it’s mostly things like being forced to do cleaning duties, road cleanup, etc.

In many states it's, at the very least, coerced.

Having a prison job often comes with deals of better behavior and a shorter sentence (!!!). When you're being told that just working for 2 dollars an hour might lower your sentence from 20 years to 15, do you really have a choice?

For example, in Georgia, prisoners often work outside of the prison for well below minimum wage in order to earn "good time". This means they might get more visits to their family. It also increases their chances of parole. However, the labor is coerced as well. Showing up late or not coming in results in in-prison punishments. So, many prisoners work in cotton fields or McDonald's on the promise of an easier life, while most of their wages are siphoned away and businesses get to pay very little.

Re: Using TypeScript to obtain one of the rarest license plates

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Post by retrodaredevil »

BurningFrog wrote: post #96
hippich wrote: post #2

One thing that stopped me from seeking the vanity plate - I learned that at least in Texas all plates are made by minimally paid prisoners. So any desire to finance that system beyond what's absolute possible minimum (i.e. regular plates) evaporated.

Imprisoning people for years seems like a much worse thing to do to people than underpaying them for work they do while locked up. Is it that the latter can be called "slavery" that makes people upset?

There are a lot of incentives to lock people up. Cheap labor is one of them. We should support incentives such as "keeping society safe", but incentives such as "profits and cheap labor" are incentives that may actually incentivize locking up innocent people.

So it's not about which one is worse, it's about not supporting something that could lead to corruption or an unfair system.

Re: Using TypeScript to obtain one of the rarest license plates

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Post by array_key_first »

ruined wrote: post #71
SR2Z wrote: post #56

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> It sounds like it isn't optional everywhere, the pay is beyond inhuman, they don't always get any benefits at all, no training, don't safety and are overworked. Most of these are true, but I would push back on the pay angle. If a person is in jail, they are a ward of the state and have no expenses at all. There is no sense in paying them a "living wage" because they don't have to live off it. In any case, most ster…

>If a person is in jail, they are a ward of the state and have no expenses at all. There is no sense in paying them a "living wage" because they don't have to live off it. In any case, most stereotypical prison jobs would not cover the cost of incarcerating the employee. only the last sentence here is true. https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/amer... many prisoners receive a bill for their incarce…

Yes, this is something people miss about prison. Many criminals are forced to repeat crime because prison is designed to economically ruin people. It's also designed to emotionally, physically, and mentally ruin people.

Point blank, the system is not meant to prevent or discourage crime, it's meant to enact torture for people we feel deserve it. Whether that helps our society does not matter at all - nobody cares if a rapist leaves prison just to rape again, so long as they are sufficiently punished for it. The punishment is more important than real, tangible outcomes, because ultimately we've built it so the punishment is what makes us feel good and safe.

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