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Re: US Tech Force

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Post by tptacek »

ecshafer wrote: post #99
tptacek wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are ways in which it clearly is a good thing. I don't have my head around how people could oppose CNE operations aimed at counterproliferation, for example. But obviously, it's morally fraught work ( fraught , meaning complicated, a minefield, not meaning "damnable") and I don't have the stomach (or, really, the talent) for it.

Theres a spectrum too it. Helping design fighter jets and missiles? Yes that has to be done with the idea that the weapons you are designing for national security can and most likely will be used in such a way that will cause harm. However in espionage or cyber security, those are almost all pure good. You are protecting information or attaining information. The main myth though is that somehow there is this idea tha…

Working in actual CNE as an employee at NSA has for a very long time been an effective calling card in software security roles as well.

Re: US Tech Force

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Post by SirMaster »

afavour wrote: post #53
redbluered wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Employers would have to be pretty spiteful to look at it the way you purposed. I wouldn't want a spiteful employer. The flip side is that a lot of government jobs lead to pretty good private sector opportunities working with those same agencies. If you want to contact to DOE, knowing how it works in the inside and knowing people there definitely helps. A lot of military contractors are former military. Who better to…

> Employers would have to be pretty spiteful to look at it the way you purposed I disagree. If a persons resume contains description of blatantly harmful work how else can I interpret it but negatively? At best you’d have to chalk it up to “just following orders” but I don’t want blind obedience in a prospective employee either. The destruction caused by DOGE is evident to anyone with eyes, as is the agency’s complet…

You seem to be assuming that someone who remained working for DOGE would even want to work for a company who would pass them over for having worked for DOGE.

Re: US Tech Force

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Post by [deleted] »

ulrashida wrote: post #15

Figures this comes from the National Design Studio ( https://ndstudio.gov/ ) which ironically also ignores the government's own advice on web standards and correct use of identifying headers. One can assume the US Tech Force will perceive itself as also unfettered by those silly rules and good practices.

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Re: US Tech Force

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Post by voidfunc »

jotux wrote: post #58

>What is the expected compensation for participants? Compensation varies based on experience level and agency placement. Annual salaries are expected to be in the approximate range of $150,000 to $200,000. Benefits include health insurance, retirement plans, paid time off, and eligibility for performance-based awards. >Tech Force will primarily recruit early-career technologists So "early-career" but they're going to…

If I was late-career with a good solid financial foundation im place and just looking to work to cover living expenses the Federal Gov as fucked as it may be doesn't seem like a bad gig. Since the bar is so incredibly fucking low you just mail it in and collect the money and when youre furloughed you play golf or do extra hobbies. The ball just needs to keep moving, it doesn't actually need to move quickly. Heck it doesn't even need to necessarily move forward.

Re: US Tech Force

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Post by SirMaster »

jeffbee wrote: post #90

You can go ahead and add this to the list of job experiences that will earn you a "Definitely Not" rating from me in the hiring committee, along with doge, palantir, coinbase, etc.

You assume any of them would even want to work for/with you...

I know I wouldn't want to work for or with someone or some company so close-minded as to use this sort of thing as some sort of candidate filter.

Re: US Tech Force

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Post by viccis »

alexpotato wrote: post #131

Is this just US Digital Service V2? https://www.usds.gov/

Yeah my first thought was that this already existed, was doing great work, and got canned by DOGE in favor of what appears to be a MUCH MUCH more expensive version of it here.

Re: US Tech Force

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Post by exasperaited »

==> We are going to build infrastructure with teams of people who won't stay longer than two years. Nobody has thought about this long enough to realise this might be a problem.

Re: US Tech Force

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Post by exasperaited »

mNovak wrote: post #139

I know it's annoying now to nitpick over what's AI generated, but I'm noticing their robot mascot has two different incorrect American flags on its sweater..

Like this administration cares about little things like how many states there are. L'état, c'est Trump.
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