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YouTube's CEO limits his kids' social media use – other tech bosses do the same

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Post by mabedan »

Larrikin wrote: post #137
mabedan wrote: post #131

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Can you be more specific? I’m curious. My son is too young to use a phone but I plan to use screentime when he’s ready for a phone. I use screen time for myself, with a 1minute limit for weekdays and 1 hour limit for weekends, for all social media, news and media consumption apps, and my wife has the password (because I have zero self control)

Younger kids are happy to hit the one more minute button for hours to continue doing what they are doing in one minute increments. Older kids are happy to download the shadiest weirdest browsers you haven't explicitly blocked and keep them uninstalled by running them directly from the dmg without dragging them over to the applications folder.

Interesting. The one more minute button is only available once a day for me

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Post by gregates »

sokoloff wrote: post #139
gregates wrote: post #125

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And the reason is that those products are (rightly) regulated. Would there be beer marketed to kids if it were legal? Would it be fine if it were the parents' sole responsibility to ensure their kids weren't drinking beer, including at school, at friends' homes where the parents may have different rules, etc., absent a general social consensus that kids shouldn't have beer? This is anecdotal evidence for the emerging…

I think social media has clear positive and negative aspects. That makes it closer to food than cigarettes in my mind. We can all immediately conjure up images where food or social media has brought something positive into our lives. News.yc is something I visit almost every day and it has added value to my life, including introducing me to a few people I’ve met in real life and to interesting tech. Equally, we can a…

Indeed, it's still not exactly clear what the right place of social media in society is. Perhaps we could even get rid of some of its pernicious aspects without throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Even food is not unregulated! And not because too much food is bad for you, but because bad food can harm you.

A disanalogy with food is that there are natural limits to how much food you can/want to eat at one time. Another is that food is necessary for life. Neither is true of social media.

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Post by Forgeties79 »

iteria wrote: post #120
mrweasel wrote: post #75

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Exactly, it's a to easy to when people go "Simply set boundaries", "just do this", "use this". A lot of parents don't have a resources, either in terms of mental, energy, resource, knowledge and what not to fight and protect their children from things that are designed to be addictive, hell most of them are stuck in the same hell as their kids. Not acknowledging that this stuff is hard, and being made unnecessarily h…

People give this excuse but somehow I feel like they would be less charitable if it was any othet addictive thing. "Oh, Timmy had a drinking problem at 13? Well we can't blame the parents. They don't have the mental or emotional strength to keep their kid out of the liquor cabinet. How ever could they know about locks?" That's what this feels like to me. As someone who is watching this happen in real time with my kid…

You can have a healthy relationship with screens at 13. You can’t have a healthy relationship with alcohol at 13.

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Post by mapontosevenths »

HelloUsername wrote: post #77
mapontosevenths wrote: post #74

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Those ads are optional. You can just pay for it. Its actually pretty good value for the money. Edit: I forgot to mention Family Link. Once you have a family membership (maybe even before?) You can also use Googles family link to enable a restricted mode that hides adult content for specific accounts. You actually get a pretty great experience for the whole family for about $20/month.

Then you'd be giving money to the Google company as well. You can also look up the content creators and donate directly.

What is your objection to paying for the thing you seem to enjoy using?

Most content creators I've heard of appreciate those who subscribe to YouTube premium. 55% of the cost goes to creators.

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Post by Libidinalecon »

tgv wrote: post #82
hamburglar wrote: post #34

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Breaking: Willy Wonka execs don’t let their kids eat unlimited amount of candy. See how uninteresting and obvious that is?

That misses the point by a mile and a half: nobody let's their children eat unlimited amounts of chocolate. They do, however, let their children access Tiltok, Youtube, etc.

No this misses the point.

I wanted to eat unlimited junk food when I was a kid but my parents wouldn't let me.

You can change it even to unlimited protein shakes. It is the same point. It is almost like kids are kind of stupid if you let them do whatever they want.

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Post by lyu07282 »

pj_mukh wrote: post #6

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You also have to think deeper than that, media in the west is propaganda, you have to ask why are they all pushing the "children are in danger from social media" narrative? You should never make the mistake to be so naive to trust in their genuine good intentions, this has nothing to do with children.

The real purpose is to build broad consensus for surveillance, control and censorship of social media, "to protect the children" is the thing they tell you to justify it. They are recognizing they have lost the narrative control. How do you manufacture consent for war and genocide when you have completely lost young people, they see the wall of carnage and dead children and will not be persuadable by the legacy media telling them to close their eyes and ears.

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Post by Larrikin »

mabedan wrote: post #141
Larrikin wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Younger kids are happy to hit the one more minute button for hours to continue doing what they are doing in one minute increments. Older kids are happy to download the shadiest weirdest browsers you haven't explicitly blocked and keep them uninstalled by running them directly from the dmg without dragging them over to the applications folder.

Interesting. The one more minute button is only available once a day for me

They may have improved it recently, which would be great

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Post by Forgeties79 »

markus_zhang wrote: post #84
Forgeties79 wrote: post #35

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The problem with this approach is their peers. Prohibition culture does not work if it’s so easy to access it elsewhere. My parents learned this when they tried to restrict video games strictly to the weekends when I was a kid haha! I find having conversations with parents at school and the parents of their friends leads to the best results (so far, I’ve only been at it a few years for my kiddos so we’ll see I guess…

Yeah we are doing that now. But I don’t know what to do if all his peers are on social media. I already know some of his friends have extensive screen time — their parents don’t care.

I just try to keep up and provide a space for them to talk about what they see and here. We’ll see if it works lol

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Post by olelele »

hamburglar wrote: post #46
adverbly wrote: post #15

This has been the case for a while. Look up Waldorf schools. Screen free.

Careful. Waldorf schools have some great ideas but they’re also rife with crackpottery and are somewhat cult-like in many ways.

Can confirm. My brothers went to different ones and some were legit over the line.

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Post by olelele »

derwiki wrote: post #128
hamburglar wrote: post #46

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Careful. Waldorf schools have some great ideas but they’re also rife with crackpottery and are somewhat cult-like in many ways.

Curious about the crackpottery and cultiness? I’m on board with some of their rules, but no listening to prerecorded music is where they lose me.

The problem with spaces like this is that manipulative people easily take over the rudder for the whole school combined with that it attracts a certain kind of free-thinking and liberal people who get wooed in and enable it all.

Edit: there is a Swedish documentary about one of the schools my brother went to.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14688132

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