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Ghostty is now non-profit

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Re: Ghostty is now non-profit

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post #66

I'm really excited about Ghostty (and Zig mostly because of my exposure via ghostty). Until ghostty I hadn't really considered that a terminal would be a catalyst for innovation and even startups. But, libghostty is REALLY fascinating. And, all the good AI coding tools, IMHO, operate inside a terminal, and my head is spinning with ideas about hammering on the container for these new CLIs. (UWash CompSci strikes again…

I'm curious as to why you are so excited ? What makes Ghostty so special ? (Especially compared to Kitty or Wezterm which I use)

Re: Ghostty is now non-profit

#142
Can someone translate this for me? I understand he explained the rationale. I am not sure I understood it though.

The biggest question I have right now is: why does it matter that a terminal is a non-profit? I think I am missing some pieces of the puzzle right now.

Re: Ghostty is now non-profit

#143
post #3

Really nice to see a solidly valuable project develop a sustainable foundation instead of turning into yet another VC-backed devtools startup that will inevitably die in a few years.

There are hundreds of thousands of software engineers who, given FU amounts of money, would absolutely keep writing software and do it only for the love of it. The companies that hire us usually make us sign promises that we won't work on side projects. Even if there are legal workarounds to that, it's not quite so simple. Even still, whatever high salaries they do give us just flow right back into the neighborhoods…

moonlighting is permitted by law in California (companies legally can't prevent you from doing it, iiuc), as long as there's no conflict of interest with your main job...

Re: Ghostty is now non-profit

#144
post #3

Really nice to see a solidly valuable project develop a sustainable foundation instead of turning into yet another VC-backed devtools startup that will inevitably die in a few years.

"sustainable foundation" it's still one guy funding it, no? seems as sustainable as before

To be fair, that one guy happens to be the OG Mitchell Hashimoto, who's worth a giant pile of money from selling terraform to IBM, and he's the guy actually writing it in the first place, so I don't think that's, like, a terrible horrible no good issue.

Re: Ghostty is now non-profit

#145
This highlights the value of having non-profits as a 501(c)(3). The transparency about Hack Club is refreshing.

The Rust Foundation is a 501(c)(6) and not a 501(c)(3). The Rust Foundation would do better for the community if they were a 501(c)(3) and more transparent about finances. Follow this example for the greater good.

Re: Ghostty is now non-profit

#146
post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are hundreds of thousands of software engineers who, given FU amounts of money, would absolutely keep writing software and do it only for the love of it. The companies that hire us usually make us sign promises that we won't work on side projects. Even if there are legal workarounds to that, it's not quite so simple. Even still, whatever high salaries they do give us just flow right back into the neighborhoods…

moonlighting is permitted by law in California (companies legally can't prevent you from doing it, iiuc), as long as there's no conflict of interest with your main job...

As long as you don't use their hardware to do it.

Re: Ghostty is now non-profit

#147
post #66

I'm really excited about Ghostty (and Zig mostly because of my exposure via ghostty). Until ghostty I hadn't really considered that a terminal would be a catalyst for innovation and even startups. But, libghostty is REALLY fascinating. And, all the good AI coding tools, IMHO, operate inside a terminal, and my head is spinning with ideas about hammering on the container for these new CLIs. (UWash CompSci strikes again…

I'm curious as to why you are so excited ? What makes Ghostty so special ? (Especially compared to Kitty or Wezterm which I use)

WezTerm was my daily driver for a long time—it’s a great app.

Ghostty is blazing fast and the attention to detail is fabulous.

The theme picker is next level, for example; so are the typographical controls.

It feels like an app made by a craftsman at the top of his game.

Re: Ghostty is now non-profit

#148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This community sounds amazing, is there anything similar for adults rather than teens? The “understanding through building” mentality is something I never got to experience as a group, the obvious answer is open source and the like but I wonder if there’s something more learning oriented.

I know I'm jaded but anytime I see a business situation and they specifically say you must be a MINOR to work with them... I get kinda suspicious. >Yes, I'm a teenager ,18 and under So not actually a teenager but a minor is what they mean and use what I would call deceptive language around it. But why?....

Yeah, I get suspicious when schools say only minors can enroll there

Re: Ghostty is now non-profit

#149

This highlights the value of having non-profits as a 501(c)(3). The transparency about Hack Club is refreshing. The Rust Foundation is a 501(c)(6) and not a 501(c)(3). The Rust Foundation would do better for the community if they were a 501(c)(3) and more transparent about finances. Follow this example for the greater good.

More context: 501(c)(3) orgs are non-profits that include charities, whereas 501(c)(6) orgs are non-profits with less strict requirements. Both are tax-exempt federally, but 501(c) orgs have higher financial transparency requirements and higher restrictions on political activity (which qualifies donations to 501(c)s as tax-deductible).

Re: Ghostty is now non-profit

#150

I never realize Ghostty is a project by Mitchell Hashimoto. I am very happy with tmux and never seriously looked at it , now I really curious what is it about and how it is different than say tmux ?

tmux is another terminal layer inside of any terminal.

Newer terminal apps like WezTerm have a multiplexer built-in.

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