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Kohler Can Access Pictures from "End-to-End Encrypted" Toilet Camera
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#142The Norwegian term for e2ee is "ende-til-ende-kryptering".
And "ende" can also mean 'butt' https://naob.no/ordbok/ende_3#52867988
So I guess it makes some kind of sense.
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#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have never seen "e2ee" abused this way personally.
Whatsapp, Signal, Telegram, iCloud
I would say Telegram is communicating their level of encryption pretty good ("client-to-client" and "client-to-server" is a good way to avoid the ambiguity of e2e).
https://telegram.org/faq?setln=en#q-so-how-do-you-encrypt-da...
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#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have never seen "e2ee" abused this way personally.
There was a discussion here on hn about OpenAI and it's privacy. Same confusion about e2ee. Users thinking e2ee is possible when you chat with an ai agent. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45908891
>Users thinking e2ee is possible when you chat with an ai agent.
It shouldn't be any harder than e2ee chatting with any other user. It's just instead of the other end chatting using a keyboard as an input they chat using a language model to type the messages. Of course like any other e2ee solution, the person you are talking to also has access to your messages as that's the whole point, being able to talk to them.
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#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have never seen "e2ee" abused this way personally.
Zoom also did this once
They don't care about security at all.
They once shipped a backdoor in their macOS app. It was noticed and called out and they refused to remove it. It took Apple blacklisting it for Zoom to finally take action.
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#146Let's think about why we're in a world where someone wants to sell you a camera to put in your toilet.
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#147Here we are 35 years after the invention of the web browser, and now browser fingerprinting is an exact science. [1] I'm guessing 35 years from now toilet bowl fingerprinting will be an exact science. Claims of "de-identified and/or anonymized data" are reckless and naive.
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#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
I suggest researching how ZCash uses zero-knowledge proofs to allow paying money from your balance to another person's balance without any middleman like a bank being able to decrypt your transaction, while still allowing everyone to verify that important invariants are maintained, such as not allowing you to spend more money than you have. This is what it takes to make a financial transaction E2EE. I'm not saying th…
Doesn't the anonymous-ness of crypto/zcash make it impossible for the bank to handle fraud (reversing of charges and such)? My understanding is that banks, at least in the US, need to have fairly extensive knowledge relating to all transfers of money, both for fraud handling and for non-fraud (money laundering, etc). A transaction they can't know anything about other than "transfer X money to some recipient you can't…
Yes, banks have a bunch of regulations which means they can't run an end-to-end encrypted payment service.
That's an argument that their payment service is not end-to-end encrypted, not an argument that you can simply redefine the ends and say that it is.
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#149Re: Kohler Can Access Pictures from "End-to-End Encrypted" Toilet Camera
#150This brings back memories of Adult Swim's "Smart Pipe" spoof infomercial.