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Re: Tell HN: Happy Thanksgiving

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Post by abustamam »

colechristensen wrote: post #119
raphman wrote: post #74

Thanks HN! I regularly open HN during lectures. There is no better way to show my students what software engineering entails and why I focus on certain topics. Is SCRUM really as great as its evangelists claim? Let's read HN comments. What are good use cases for UML? Let's check out HN. Does anyone actually care about CoCoMo or CMMI? Let's read ... oh - nearly nobody's talking about it there. Maybe it won't be that r…

>What are good use cases for UML? Let's check out HN. Are there good cases for UML outside the raison d'être of middle managers circa 2007?

The startup I work for is pretty flat. There's the chief product officer who is actually pretty technical, the chief technical officer, and engineers basically.

We use UMLs and flow charts in miro to diagram things from both a high level (for product to understand) to intricate details.

It works great!

Re: Tell HN: Happy Thanksgiving

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Post by kyledrake »

fragmede wrote: post #140
kyledrake wrote: post #139

I've had an HN account for 17 years now. This is one of the last good places left on the web for intelligent conversation, and pretty much the last place I even want to post comments anymore honestly. Thank you @dang for the hard work on maintaining that. Hopefully this site can continue to be a bastion in an increasingly dismal social media environment.

All of us old timers coming out for this one, eh? Also, when did I get so old?

I'm hoping I'm only at the halfway point in my life. So many cool and interesting things have developed in my existence, and there are so many more cool and interesting things to come! Looking forward as I have for the last 17 years to reading about them on HN as they happen.

Not sure what I would tell my young self back in the 90s first. Self driving cars, LLMs that can fix bugs I've been trying to fix for 12 years. Maybe I would start with "Linux distros where you don't have to manually compile 15 random dependencies to run a single piece of software".

Re: Tell HN: Happy Thanksgiving

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Post by anonu »

fragmede wrote: post #140
kyledrake wrote: post #139

I've had an HN account for 17 years now. This is one of the last good places left on the web for intelligent conversation, and pretty much the last place I even want to post comments anymore honestly. Thank you @dang for the hard work on maintaining that. Hopefully this site can continue to be a bastion in an increasingly dismal social media environment.

All of us old timers coming out for this one, eh? Also, when did I get so old?

12 years for me... young by comparison. But I was on slashdot in the late 90s if that counts.

Re: Tell HN: Happy Thanksgiving

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Post by Donald »

kyledrake wrote: post #139

I've had an HN account for 17 years now. This is one of the last good places left on the web for intelligent conversation, and pretty much the last place I even want to post comments anymore honestly. Thank you @dang for the hard work on maintaining that. Hopefully this site can continue to be a bastion in an increasingly dismal social media environment.

My account is just a week apart from yours. Neocities is an excellent project btw, glad to see your passion for the web shine through it.

Re: Tell HN: Happy Thanksgiving

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Post by jazzejeff1 »

A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 wrote: post #48

^^7 cheers to all you glorious bastards. i disagree with you on most things and quibble over pettiest crap, but know it is all in good fun. we are prolly in the weirdest point in computer history and get to see it make it through ( or not.. either is fine ). its a secret, but those annual affirtation are one of my favorite traditions. here is to all the fun convos yet to come.

I’m thankful for this place and this sentiment. As a young programmer I never imagined having this erudite enclave, capable of maintaining a level head during difficult days. Here’s to having community…and I agree with about half of what y’all say, because I’m aggressively anchored at the average. :)

Re: Tell HN: Happy Thanksgiving

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Post by colechristensen »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #136
colechristensen wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>What are good use cases for UML? Let's check out HN. Are there good cases for UML outside the raison d'être of middle managers circa 2007?

Having architecture diagrams is not fundamentally a bad thing, and standardizing the conventions for them is not fundamentally a bad thing. I think the thing that gave UML a terribly bad name was the cavalcade of early "zero code" or "low code" tools trying to turn your UML diagram into code; those were terrible.

Drawing things on whiteboards to see the architecture, absolutely.

The more formalism it has and the more it was insisted on was always a strong signal that was was happening was a middle management cargo cult and not actually useful work.

I believe that there exist organizations that derived value from this sort of thing, I just haven't seen them.

Re: Tell HN: Happy Thanksgiving

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Post by colechristensen »

abustamam wrote: post #141
colechristensen wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>What are good use cases for UML? Let's check out HN. Are there good cases for UML outside the raison d'être of middle managers circa 2007?

The startup I work for is pretty flat. There's the chief product officer who is actually pretty technical, the chief technical officer, and engineers basically. We use UMLs and flow charts in miro to diagram things from both a high level (for product to understand) to intricate details. It works great!

Nerds!

(but seriously, I'm interested it's just everything I've seen before had the strong scent of "we're doing this nonsense because we believe we're supposed to but don't understand why")

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