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Dark Mode Sucks

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Re: Dark Mode Sucks

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Post by ryandrake »

tensor wrote: post #64

Just make it configurable. It's not that hard. The only thing I want to hear less about than light vs dark, tabs vs spaces, is the dripping condescension of morning people. Make it configurable and let people be.

Why even limit ourselves to a binary choice? Back in the Windows 9x and earlier days, you could individually color every class of thing on the screen. Window backgrounds, title bars, scroll bars, buttons, text for this, text for that, everything could be a different color if the end user wanted it. How far we have backslid where offering just "dark" and "light" is now seen as some sort of favor to the user!

We should return to those great days of end user control. "Sensible defaults, but easy to override." Why can't I easily (without writing code) configure HN's background and text color, just through my browser's configuration UI?

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

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Post by [deleted] »

godelski wrote: post #96
tensor wrote: post #64

Just make it configurable. It's not that hard. The only thing I want to hear less about than light vs dark, tabs vs spaces, is the dripping condescension of morning people. Make it configurable and let people be.

Wikipedia, you can solve this with one line of code. Just changing one variable name... Seriously, the fact that light vs dark is even an issue is silly. It only exists out of laziness and that's what we should really be mad about

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Re: Dark Mode Sucks

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Post by npteljes »

HumanOstrich wrote: post #106
godelski wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wikipedia, you can solve this with one line of code. Just changing one variable name... Seriously, the fact that light vs dark is even an issue is silly. It only exists out of laziness and that's what we should really be mad about

While I agree that it's not as complicated as some make it out to be, let's not pretend it's just one variable change.

Wiki already has the functionality for dark mode, but loads the light mode as default. They even have the Automatic option, but the user has to select it, so, it's like semi-automatic. They really are just single line modification away from true automatic light/dark mode.

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

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Post by npteljes »

xphos wrote: post #12

I kind of wish white showed up as that manila bookish paper color. I think my eyes read that better than white. But I dont mind dark mode either. I wouldn't never say its mandatory though

I use the OS provided Night Light feature everywhere for this, and my eyes are loving it. I have it set up to follow the day-night cycle, so during the day it doesn't get overly sepia.

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#145

Post by npteljes »

gingerceo wrote: post #85

Dark mode actually saves a lot of energy and thus battery time on mobile devices. It's more practical, cheaper, and good for the environment. I don't get the hate in this article.

Many of these haters have astigmatism, which makes the dark mode hard to see for them. I don't think all of the people who have this realize they have this, so, it gets directed against the dark mode itself.

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

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Post by hollerith »

npteljes wrote: post #145
gingerceo wrote: post #85

Dark mode actually saves a lot of energy and thus battery time on mobile devices. It's more practical, cheaper, and good for the environment. I don't get the hate in this article.

Many of these haters have astigmatism, which makes the dark mode hard to see for them. I don't think all of the people who have this realize they have this, so, it gets directed against the dark mode itself.

You are probably going to get astigmatism or cataracts (which also make dark mode hard to read), too, if you live into your 60s.

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

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Post by bdangubic »

npteljes wrote: post #145
gingerceo wrote: post #85

Dark mode actually saves a lot of energy and thus battery time on mobile devices. It's more practical, cheaper, and good for the environment. I don't get the hate in this article.

Many of these haters have astigmatism, which makes the dark mode hard to see for them. I don't think all of the people who have this realize they have this, so, it gets directed against the dark mode itself.

fascinating… I have severe astigmatism and I exclusively use dark mode always, the opposite is hard for me. I did not even know that many people with astigmatism struggle with dark mode

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

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Post by npteljes »

simonw wrote: post #35

I occasionally get requests from readers to add a dark mode to my blog - https://simonwillison.net/ - and I'm never sure how much priority I should give those, as someone who almost never chooses to use dark mode. Dark mode fans: does it really bother you to read white web pages?

I'd guess so, yes. I think dark mode users leave the screen brighter than it should be, because in dark mode, it doesn't matter as much as it does in light mode. Then, after looking at dark things for a while, the eye gets used to the light level, and then opening a white page is like a supernova happening in front of the user's face. In short, with dark mode, the lightness baseline is much lower, and a light page disrupts this.

I'd say it's more of a courtesy thing. If you like a bit of a web design challenge, you can experiment with the prefers-color-scheme CSS feature. With this, the browser will automatically apply the dark mode for users that have it set, making the experience seamless (and state of the art).

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

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Post by npteljes »

tensor wrote: post #67
slig wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Paste unstyled: CTRL+SHIFT+V, or the Mac equivalent.

I so wish it was possible to make paste unstyled the default. 99% of the time I want paste unstyled, not paste styled.

Yes and to make it worse, sometimes the unstyled paste shortcut doesn't work. For example, in Microsoft Notes.

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

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Post by npteljes »

bdangubic wrote: post #147
npteljes wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many of these haters have astigmatism, which makes the dark mode hard to see for them. I don't think all of the people who have this realize they have this, so, it gets directed against the dark mode itself.

fascinating… I have severe astigmatism and I exclusively use dark mode always, the opposite is hard for me. I did not even know that many people with astigmatism struggle with dark mode

Maybe there are other factors too, I'm not very sure. When there are thin light lines on a dark background, that's really hard to look at for me. And strangely, the same dark lines on a light background don't bother me at all.
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