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How do the pros get someone to leave a cult?

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Re: How do the pros get someone to leave a cult?

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You specifically may not be in the Trump/MAGA cult, and there are others who simply do disagree, as you say. But there is undoubtedly a cult wing of MAGA. My mother is a member, and it checks every single box of cult behavior.

Sure just as is the case for the Democrat party and any other sufficiently large political organisation. There are elements of the Democrat party that think it's rational to mutilate children for example. I'm not aware of any MAGA supporters with this level of brain-washing.

Aren't a lot of Republicans now saying it is ok to have sex with 15 year old girls?

EDIT: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/11/megyn-kelly-eps...

Megyn Kelly Suddenly Finds Pedophilia Very Hard to Define When a 16-year-old accused Russell Brand of rape, Kelly begged conservatives to condemn him. Now she’s splitting hairs about men “into the barely legal type.”

Re: How do the pros get someone to leave a cult?

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Sure just as is the case for the Democrat party and any other sufficiently large political organisation. There are elements of the Democrat party that think it's rational to mutilate children for example. I'm not aware of any MAGA supporters with this level of brain-washing.

Aren't a lot of Republicans now saying it is ok to have sex with 15 year old girls? EDIT: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/11/megyn-kelly-eps... Megyn Kelly Suddenly Finds Pedophilia Very Hard to Define When a 16-year-old accused Russell Brand of rape, Kelly begged conservatives to condemn him. Now she’s splitting hairs about men “into the barely legal type.”

Maybe I'm too much of a left-winger and don't get enough right-wing content, but this would be news to me, unless you and I also have very different notions of what "a lot of republicans" means.

Re: How do the pros get someone to leave a cult?

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I'm anti-fascist. I have a sticker on my laptop, and have hosted a BLM protest. No flags, no hats, and maybe 1% of my friends are involved in the way I am. If there's an antifa cult, I want to know about it, bcause I wouldn't mind some more friends in the scene. Again, can we please just be for real and stop playing a "both sides" game? There's a difference between dogmatism, and cultism.

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You disrespect the person you're responding to with your sarcasm, ignoring their points in order to make your own. You try to recover further down, which is nice, but please try to debate in good faith.

Re: How do the pros get someone to leave a cult?

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For those who are interested: I recently read the book "Combatting Cult Mind Control" by Steven Hassan, a professional who also helps people leave cults. His approach isn't as much of a "long game" as Ryan and Kelly's approach. One thing that Hassan explains is that MLMs are often very similar to cults, and he also explains the difference between cults and religion. Another book to read is The Running Grave by Robert…

> the difference between cults and religion

sounds interesting, can you please summarize it, if possible?

Re: How do the pros get someone to leave a cult?

#145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aren't a lot of Republicans now saying it is ok to have sex with 15 year old girls? EDIT: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/11/megyn-kelly-eps... Megyn Kelly Suddenly Finds Pedophilia Very Hard to Define When a 16-year-old accused Russell Brand of rape, Kelly begged conservatives to condemn him. Now she’s splitting hairs about men “into the barely legal type.”

Maybe I'm too much of a left-winger and don't get enough right-wing content, but this would be news to me, unless you and I also have very different notions of what "a lot of republicans" means.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/11/megyn-kelly-eps...

Megyn Kelly Suddenly Finds Pedophilia Very Hard to Define When a 16-year-old accused Russell Brand of rape, Kelly begged conservatives to condemn him. Now she’s splitting hairs about men “into the barely legal type.”

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