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Re: Iran begins cloud seeding operations as drought bites

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Post by breppp »

a2tech wrote: post #7
TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #6

Earlier today I watched a video[0] that helped contextualize the water situation in Iran. The key takeaway for me was that Iran has been rapidly depleting their water reserves and they don't have any ways to quickly refill them, nor do they have treaties with neighboring countries to guarantee water. That video doesn't mention cloud seeding at all. How should we think about cloud seeding? Does this technology actuall…

I assume marketing. I’m wondering what will happen when they force the afghan refugees back over the border into Afghanistan since they don’t have the water to give them. Climate change and bad decisions from the last 50 years are starting to bite now. It’ll just get worse. Expect migrations and countries collapsing as millions of people are pushed to migrate for survival.

you mean more than the 1.1 million afghans they have already deported this year?

Re: Iran begins cloud seeding operations as drought bites

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Post by thrance »

bombcar wrote: post #59
rectang wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those of us who live in other states also have to prepare for the refugees fleeing ruined lands who will bring their destructive ideology with them.

It’s so lucky that even though refugees from other states bring negative consequences at least refugees from other countries don’t.

Undocumented immigrants commit less crimes than legal Texans, as per the NIJ[0].

[0] https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU01/20250122/117827/HHRG...

Re: Iran begins cloud seeding operations as drought bites

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Post by myth_drannon »

rjzzleep wrote: post #91
energy123 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is quite a distortion of the facts to push an agenda. Desalination technology can solve their problems completely, but they armed proxies that attacked the two countries in the region (Saudi Arabia and Israel) that can help them. They also imprisoned the one qualified guy in their country who blew the whistle on their water mismanagement (e.g. farming water intensive crops in a desert), Dr. Madani. You could rea…

You think that's the only person that talks about the oligarchs excess farming? It's being talked about nonstop. The government just doesn't do anything about it. Iran has desalination facilities(75 in 2022 to be exact). But not enough and obviously only by the water. Iran has way less energy production than Saudi Arabia, which per capita would put it at a 4th or so. That's with the fact that Iran is a massively indu…

Iran has civil nuclear reactors built by Russia and Israel didn't touch them.

Re: Iran begins cloud seeding operations as drought bites

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Post by myth_drannon »

rjzzleep wrote: post #81
Thlom wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Iran can of course build a nuke in a relatively short timespan if they want to, but for a range of reason they have made the decision not to. Perhaps they should have built a nuke, if they had one Israel and the US wouldn't have bombed them.

It's really amazing how a bunch of politicians in the US including can just repeat a claim and Trump can just prime a statement like "the JCPOA was a terrible deal" and people that should be smart will gradually start believing it without ever reading a single word of the JCPOA document. No they can't. Canada can. Japan can, SK can. But Iran poured concrete into the rods of its only, then completed heavy water reacto…

So what was Iran shooting at Israel then, paper rockets? It was huge ballistic missile.

Re: Iran begins cloud seeding operations as drought bites

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Post by victorbjorklund »

bongodongobob wrote: post #82
treis wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People use very little water. Most of what is drawn is returned back to the system. By that I mean if you use 20 gallons for a shower 19 is going into the drain to be reused. The only real usage of water is evaporation and that's stuff like growing plants and cooling towers.

??? 20 gallons get reused, 100% of it goes back into the system. If somehow 5% was destroyed from showering we wouldn't have any water left.

You know what they meant. They obviously mean the system controlled by us - not rain and shit.

Re: Iran begins cloud seeding operations as drought bites

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Post by vxvrs »

UAE does this too, but with the UAE I always find it funny how their infrastructure is not build at all to handle rain well. Periods of rain (most of the time) go hand in hand with traffic and road problems, or even flooding. I can see why they need the water, but the effect on their city infrastructure build for heat is also not nothing.

Re: Iran begins cloud seeding operations as drought bites

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Post by marcosdumay »

ants_everywhere wrote: post #54
a2tech wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assume marketing. I’m wondering what will happen when they force the afghan refugees back over the border into Afghanistan since they don’t have the water to give them. Climate change and bad decisions from the last 50 years are starting to bite now. It’ll just get worse. Expect migrations and countries collapsing as millions of people are pushed to migrate for survival.

> Climate change and bad decisions from the last 50 years are starting to bite now. It’ll just get worse. Expect migrations and countries collapsing as millions of people are pushed to migrate for survival. For those unfamiliar, climate change and drought are believed to be one of the major causes of the bronze age civilization collapse https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Bronze_Age_collapse#Droug...

People speculate climate change and drought are one of the causes for every major collapse in history. It's even likely, because people keep fighting the collapse until something forces their hands, and that's one recurrent big thing to trigger change.

That said, we never had the climate change that strongly on history.

Re: Iran begins cloud seeding operations as drought bites

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Post by breppp »

rjzzleep wrote: post #28
TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #6

Earlier today I watched a video[0] that helped contextualize the water situation in Iran. The key takeaway for me was that Iran has been rapidly depleting their water reserves and they don't have any ways to quickly refill them, nor do they have treaties with neighboring countries to guarantee water. That video doesn't mention cloud seeding at all. How should we think about cloud seeding? Does this technology actuall…

One of Iran's biggest problems is that Iran, for no good reason other than the benefit of some big corporations (kinda similar to the California situation) is one of the biggest produce and dry fruit exporter in the world, and that one thing the government would need to do is shut down that excess capacity. A thing very few countries would do because it would punish some oligarch for the benefit of the whole of socie…

By oligarch I assume you mean the IRGC which controls most of Iran's economy.

In these kind of societies it's hard to think of the controlling powers as oligarchs as although they get rich off corruption, their power did not come from money but vice versa

Re: Iran begins cloud seeding operations as drought bites

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Post by naIak »

downrightmike wrote: post #117
reeredfdfdf wrote: post #88

It's about time to start preparing for global geoengineering. Spraying our atmosphere with stuff that reflects light would buy us time to get emissions under control, and help avoiding the worst scenarios. Best of all, we know it works, thanks to emissions from maritime traffic and the spike in temperature rise after they got cleaner.

Or we could put 3,100 people on house arrest and the major emissions will stop.

Is this the usual "we must stop the big corporations" argument, pretending that those who work at them and those who depend on their products will not complain? Or maybe you are thinking concentration camps and mass graves.

Re: Iran begins cloud seeding operations as drought bites

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Post by FridayoLeary »

downrightmike wrote: post #117
reeredfdfdf wrote: post #88

It's about time to start preparing for global geoengineering. Spraying our atmosphere with stuff that reflects light would buy us time to get emissions under control, and help avoiding the worst scenarios. Best of all, we know it works, thanks to emissions from maritime traffic and the spike in temperature rise after they got cleaner.

Or we could put 3,100 people on house arrest and the major emissions will stop.

So covid lockdown?
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