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SanDisk launches dongle-like Extreme Fit USB-C flash drive with up to 1 TB

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Re: SanDisk launches dongle-like Extreme Fit USB-C flash drive with up to 1 TB

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https://what-if.xkcd.com/31/

Very interesting, thanks a lot. If only we had the densities :/

It's hard to get people to pay much more than $200 for a dense drive that will overheat with significant writes. So you can get this up to 1TB, and thumb drives at 2TB or maybe 4TB, but anything with more capacity stops being built keychain friendly even if technically the flash chips could be squeezed closer.

Re: SanDisk launches dongle-like Extreme Fit USB-C flash drive with up to 1 TB

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I'm not sure what you mean by "so you can't hot -plug/-unplug it". If I use it in Windows or Linux, I can eject it like I can any standard non-SSD USB stick. I'm also not sure what issues you've been having with booting from them. I've occasionally used these things to boot Linux LiveCDs without issue. Might be a compatibility issue with your BIOS specifically? I've seen some messed up BIOS's that simply defy all exp…

>I'm not sure what you mean by "so you can't hot -plug/-unplug it" Only UMS (universal mass storage) devices can be hot-plugged-unplugged without ejecting, while UAS (USB Attached SCSI) devices cannot and need to be ejected beforehand since the OS treats them like an internal drive instead of a removable one. > I'm also not sure what issues you've been having with booting from them. Might be a compatibility issue wit…

MSC and UAS are SCSI transport protocols and have nothing to do with a device being identified as a removable device, which happens at the higher command set layer.

Specifically, flash drives typically set the removable media bit in their response to the SCSI INQUIRY command, which makes the OS believe they contain a medium that can be removed and replaced, like a floppy, "superfloppy" (Zip, LS-120, SyQuest, etc.), or optical drive.

This is why Windows, in particular, exhibits curious behavior when dealing with flash drives:

It assigns a drive letter to a flash drive even if it contains no partitions — MS-DOS and Windows floppies, "superfloppies", and optical media were traditionally unpartitioned.

It allows you to eject the "medium" from the drive — at which point it typically becomes unusable, like a floppy drive with no disk inserted, unless you have a way to send a START STOP UNIT command with the load eject bit set (e.g., the sg3_utils[1] sg_start command), which directs a removable drive to attempt to load the inserted medium (a tray-loading CD-ROM drive with an open tray will retract the tray and spin up the disc, if present; a tape drive capable of injecting an ejected tape will do so; a flash drive with nothing to physically eject will once again present as a drive with medium present).

Most usefully, it causes Windows to default to more conservative caching behavior that makes surprise removal safer (this can be changed for specific devices via Properties in Device Manager), and therefore doesn't display a warning when the drive is physically disconnected without requesting disconnection from the OS and waiting for the "safe to remove" notification.

[1] https://sg.danny.cz/sg/sg3_utils.html

Re: SanDisk launches dongle-like Extreme Fit USB-C flash drive with up to 1 TB

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> The Extreme Fit has been formally announced, and this dongle-like USB Type-C flash drive is available with up to 1 TB capacity. Sandisk also notes that it delivers USB 3.2 Gen 1 performance, and the starting launch price is $15.99.

What a weasel worded sentence. "1 TB … $16". Of course, it's $110, and yes, I see the qualifiers here. Allegedly journalistic sites should cut out the marketing sleeze before publishing. "Starting at 64 GB for $15 and ranging up to 1 TB for $110" it's not hard to write.

Re: SanDisk launches dongle-like Extreme Fit USB-C flash drive with up to 1 TB

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>I'm not sure what you mean by "so you can't hot -plug/-unplug it" Only UMS (universal mass storage) devices can be hot-plugged-unplugged without ejecting, while UAS (USB Attached SCSI) devices cannot and need to be ejected beforehand since the OS treats them like an internal drive instead of a removable one. > I'm also not sure what issues you've been having with booting from them. Might be a compatibility issue wit…

> Only UMS (universal mass storage) devices can be hot-plugged-unplugged without ejecting, while UAS (USB Attached SCSI) devices cannot and need to be ejected beforehand since the OS treats them like an internal drive instead of a removable one. "need" according to what? If this is about writeback caching, you can turn that off manually for the disk. And isn't windows the only OS that disables it by default for remov…

>Sounds like a rufus issue to me, rather than a hardware problem. It's been standard practice to align to larger values for a long time for performance reasons.

Which EFIs and bootloaders support that though? Everything I tried failed.

Re: SanDisk launches dongle-like Extreme Fit USB-C flash drive with up to 1 TB

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Kingston makes this product line for many years which meets the requirements I think https://www.kingston.com/en/usb-flash-drives/datatraveler-dt...

Kingston stopped making the one I really liked. A truly small microSD to USB adapter that could fit in a wallet. This was perfect for always having a USB drive around and not taking up space in your pocket. https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2F... https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/658398-REG/Kingston_F...

Wow that is compact. Wouldn't it be painfully slow since it is microSD ?

Re: SanDisk launches dongle-like Extreme Fit USB-C flash drive with up to 1 TB

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It sounds like you're describing the yubikey 5c form factor. Unfortunately I haven't been able to find a flash drive matching that form factor in my years of searching. https://resources.yubico.com/53ZDUYE6/at/cm85k8947jm9g32znfs...

Close! I'm thinking something like the Kingston DataTraveler, but usb-c. https://www.kingston.com/en/usb-flash-drives/datatraveler-dt...

Yeah, if that existed for usb type C then I'd buy 4 today. Such a perfect form factor, just stuck on the legacy connector.

Re: SanDisk launches dongle-like Extreme Fit USB-C flash drive with up to 1 TB

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Any recommendations for >20gbit/s enclosures with passive cooling (that are also not huge)? I have a 10gbit/s enclosure and a 4TB gen4 nvme in it. It pains me to know that it could achieve >3GB/s write speeds but hindered by the interface.

Highly recommend this site: https://dancharblog.wordpress.com/2024/01/01/list-of-ssd-enc... It's key to get an enclosure with a chipset that will support whatever interface your computer actually provides, otherwise a lot of these enclosures will fall back to USB-3 speeds for compatibility and things will be slow. This site gives a pretty good overview of the chipsets out there and pros/cons of each one. I've had goo…

+1 for that Acasis. I've had one for 18 months and use it for occasional >1TB backups and big transfers to/from a Dell XPS laptop running Winx64. I benchmarked it with DiskMark64 and speeds are as expected for 40Gbps-class xfer.

It was much cheaper to order the laptop with the smallest stock Dell NVME (512GB generic) and immediately upgrade it myself to a 4TB Samsung 990 Pro. The external enclosure made the upgrade much quicker and the savings more than paid for the enclosure plus I got a faster 4TB NVMe than the generic stock Dell NVME 4TB for less money.

Re: SanDisk launches dongle-like Extreme Fit USB-C flash drive with up to 1 TB

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Just buy microsd to sd adapter that sits completely flush in the case. Like this called BaseQi: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0822/8493/files/feature-1_...

Also "just buy" a MacBook Pro to go with it?

Each hole depth is different though I’ve seen versions for some windows laptops like yoga

Re: SanDisk launches dongle-like Extreme Fit USB-C flash drive with up to 1 TB

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There are still for any macbook pro with sd card slot. BaseQi or similar Nothing beats cheap storage like that and completely flush with the case

But how reliable is it? I've heard stories about how unreliable it is, and it's got me concerned.

Use it for some throughaway big files stuff or backup with something like backblaze
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