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State of Terminal Emulators in 2025: The Errant Champions

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Re: State of Terminal Emulators in 2025: The Errant Champions

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post #59

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well iTerm2 now has a #&*%( web browser built in...

Yes! Hoping I can get Neomutt to render HTML email without resorting to launching a browser. Since URLs are clickable in iTerm, you have the option to view a webpage in the terminal.

By "browser" here, you mean lynx or links or w3m etc, right?

Assuming so, what would be the benefit of rendering within neomutt instead of lynx?

Re: State of Terminal Emulators in 2025: The Errant Champions

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post #85

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The only thing I'm missing from ghostty is scrollback search. It's planned AFAIU, I hope it gets there eventually. Otherwise, ghostty has been pretty good. (I know you can fake scrollback search with tmux. It's not the same.)

There seems to be a contingent that just doesn't use scroll back search, which I find kind of baffling.

Honestly, I had never even heard of it before this very thread. It doesn't seem all that useful to me, but I don't truthfully know how much or how little I would use it in practice.

Re: State of Terminal Emulators in 2025: The Errant Champions

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post #46
post #41

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Lol, mb, but I don't believe that's the case for Alacritty. As for the Apple Terminal, it is not great

Apple Terminal is a lot like Internet Explorer in the 00s: for power users it’s only purpose is an interface to install something else which doesn’t suck.

I used IE back in the 00s (up until Chrome came out), and I certainly was a power user. I liked it just fine. I think that it's a matter of personal preference rather than something sucking (or not).

Re: State of Terminal Emulators in 2025: The Errant Champions

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post #40

No love for Windows Terminal? I know that linux has a much richer terminal ecosystem, but WT ranks a lot higher than a wide breadth of terminal emulators on linux now. Could anyone have imagined that 10 years ago?

I absolutely love it, it's my personal favorite. Using ghostty on MacOS instead. But I'm no power user.

I would argue that anyone who uses the terminal enough to have opinions on which one they like best is very much a power user.

Re: State of Terminal Emulators in 2025: The Errant Champions

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post #69

I can't remember the last time I used a non-ascii character in the terminal. I know that's not the case for everyone, and they deserve good terminals too, but it does mean that the criteria measured here have no relevance to my choice of a good terminal for me.

Seems quite hard to avoid - file management such as running "ls" where any filename has any non-ascii character such as a CJK or accented letter - editing any text file in a terminal editor that isn't 100% ascii - viewing/printing any data from any source, such as a log file/the web/'curl'ing something, where any language other than English or non-ascii character is used - using various modern command line tools that…

Literally none of those is a situation I've ever encountered. I don't think it's as hard to avoid as you think.

Re: State of Terminal Emulators in 2025: The Errant Champions

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post #82

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Seems quite hard to avoid - file management such as running "ls" where any filename has any non-ascii character such as a CJK or accented letter - editing any text file in a terminal editor that isn't 100% ascii - viewing/printing any data from any source, such as a log file/the web/'curl'ing something, where any language other than English or non-ascii character is used - using various modern command line tools that…

> using various modern command line tools that insist on printing emojis in their output Ugh. Unpopular opinion this but I personally find this practice repugnant. Same for when used in git commit messages, CI/CD task names and other such places. It just cheapens the quality of the product in my opinion Graphical characters and symbols like ticks I’m fine with. I have no objection to people wanting to make the termin…

IMO emojis have no business in any form of text. It just doesn't belong.

Re: State of Terminal Emulators in 2025: The Errant Champions

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post #117

Work had me using the Windows Terminal for the first time ever after a life of developing on Linux. I got immediately hooked on the smart Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V (without needing to use Shift like on Linux!) For those not knowing, Windows Terminal uses Ctrl+C to abort the current process (as we'd expect) when nothing is selected , but copies when there is a selection. Similarly, Ctrl+V just pastes. So convenient!

> I got immediately hooked on the smart Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V (without needing to use Shift like on Linux!)

You, uh, never tried middle clicking?

Re: State of Terminal Emulators in 2025: The Errant Champions

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Mac terminals yield a similar benefit, with the systemwide copy/paste Cmd+C/V not overlapping with Ctrl+C/V. Being used to that, Linux terminals become rather annoying. Yes there's other ways under Linux, but they don't have 25+ years of muscle memory associated with them, and so when the key shortcuts don't work as expected it's like nails on a chalkboard.

Heh, shortcut muscle memory is the reason I returned my Mac mini one week after trying it. I sure am not gonna remap my brain for apple after 20 years of Linux and windows.

It's easy and reasonably quick to set up key remapping (via Karabiner).

Re: State of Terminal Emulators in 2025: The Errant Champions

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post #36

I have been pretty happy with Alacritty for a while but just tried Ghostty and am a little bit mind-blown. The fact that it has a built-in theme picker is insanely convenient for people working on multiple computers at the same time(so the same theme might not work everywhere). Overall, it literally looks like a better Alacritty alternative. The creator(s) did a great job!

The first time I went through the theme picker, I was tickled to see a theme I had made years ago included. Realized later it was due to it including all of the themes from iTerm2 Color Schemes automatically.

It made for a more fun first experience with a terminal emulator than I expected to have.

Re: State of Terminal Emulators in 2025: The Errant Champions

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post #117

Work had me using the Windows Terminal for the first time ever after a life of developing on Linux. I got immediately hooked on the smart Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V (without needing to use Shift like on Linux!) For those not knowing, Windows Terminal uses Ctrl+C to abort the current process (as we'd expect) when nothing is selected , but copies when there is a selection. Similarly, Ctrl+V just pastes. So convenient!

Not sure if this was available from the beginning, but Ghostty has the ability to do exactly that with what they call "performable" keybindings

https://ghostty.org/docs/config/keybind#performable:>

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