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Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

#141

Post by monero-xmr »

hurrckplgbd wrote: post #138
monero-xmr wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My first comment on this whole thread was how security in tech is theater, and the sellers mostly snake oil salesmen. I’m not the first to make this observation and I don’t think it’s wrong. Which is why employment in the sector is down, full circle to the OP

Go ahead, take that slim, speculative, tangential connection and interpret it as permission to inject your hot take into the discussion. Decline to elaborate when your supposition is challenged. You've every right to do that. Just don't pretend that it's for our benefit or that we downvote it because we're unthinking drones, or that you decline to elaborate because we're simply not capable of having the discussion. I…

This website is full of unthinking drones acting with hive mind behavior, that is my contention, and I think very differently, not just on here but with almost everyone I engage with. However I succeed over and over with asymmetric bets on a wide variety of things, including and especially tech and making money in tech, so if we compare bank accounts and career trajectories, investments, etc. it would be wise to let me speak

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

#142

Post by hurrckplgbd »

monero-xmr wrote: post #141
hurrckplgbd wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Go ahead, take that slim, speculative, tangential connection and interpret it as permission to inject your hot take into the discussion. Decline to elaborate when your supposition is challenged. You've every right to do that. Just don't pretend that it's for our benefit or that we downvote it because we're unthinking drones, or that you decline to elaborate because we're simply not capable of having the discussion. I…

This website is full of unthinking drones acting with hive mind behavior, that is my contention, and I think very differently, not just on here but with almost everyone I engage with. However I succeed over and over with asymmetric bets on a wide variety of things, including and especially tech and making money in tech, so if we compare bank accounts and career trajectories, investments, etc. it would be wise to let…

Overweighing people's opinions on matters they demonstrate a shallow engagement with on account of their success in other areas is cargo culting. Maybe you should worry less about HN and more about your own reflexes to accept bad ideas from yourself and others based on their wealth. Maybe succeeding in contrarian bets doesn't make you "correct" in some moral sense, but only successful in the trade.

It's easy for me to believe you're an intelligent person who's accomplished impressive things. But it wouldn't contradict anything I've said.

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

#143

Post by monero-xmr »

hurrckplgbd wrote: post #142
monero-xmr wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This website is full of unthinking drones acting with hive mind behavior, that is my contention, and I think very differently, not just on here but with almost everyone I engage with. However I succeed over and over with asymmetric bets on a wide variety of things, including and especially tech and making money in tech, so if we compare bank accounts and career trajectories, investments, etc. it would be wise to let…

Overweighing people's opinions on matters they demonstrate a shallow engagement with on account of their success in other areas is cargo culting. Maybe you should worry less about HN and more about your own reflexes to accept bad ideas from yourself and others based on their wealth. Maybe succeeding in contrarian bets doesn't make you "correct" in some moral sense, but only successful in the trade. It's easy for me t…

I own a software business with hundreds of employees I built from nothing. I know all about tech security, hiring security guys, etc. It is a cost center, the directors / VPs / CSOs are overpaid salesmen, 99% of the products you want are features from cloud vendors or provided by standard tools like device management or password managers. I totally get the patina desired by large corporations who need to show wall street they care about security. When I box check I use a super cheap cut rate firm who can check boxes for me at the lowest cost because it is total bullshit. I'm sorry this is the reality

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

#145

Post by hurrckplgbd »

monero-xmr wrote: post #143
hurrckplgbd wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Overweighing people's opinions on matters they demonstrate a shallow engagement with on account of their success in other areas is cargo culting. Maybe you should worry less about HN and more about your own reflexes to accept bad ideas from yourself and others based on their wealth. Maybe succeeding in contrarian bets doesn't make you "correct" in some moral sense, but only successful in the trade. It's easy for me t…

I own a software business with hundreds of employees I built from nothing. I know all about tech security, hiring security guys, etc. It is a cost center, the directors / VPs / CSOs are overpaid salesmen, 99% of the products you want are features from cloud vendors or provided by standard tools like device management or password managers. I totally get the patina desired by large corporations who need to show wall st…

It's understandable to have sour grapes after having some bad experiences, but what I'm hearing is unrelated to any impact AI is having on the job market. You're talking about security products you think are snake oil and executives you think are overpaid; that is unrelated to trends in job postings for security professionals, working at software companies, and how that might be impacted from AI.

This is what I've been saying. You've got some random grievance, you want to take this discussion as an opportunity to get it off your chest. But you don't want to engage with people challenging your ideas. And when for whatever reason you do explain yourself to me, your explanation is "I am wealthy and successful, so I must be right. Those who disagree with me are an undifferentiated mass of imbeciles that I have nothing to learn from."

If that's how you want to live, it's your right. You're only cheating yourself, so maybe I'll just shut up and let you get on with it.

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

#146

Post by 9rx »

lm28469 wrote: post #56
9rx wrote: post #43

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> When using a pen you become a poet ? No. By definition, a poet writes poems. Not all pen use leads to poems. By definition, engineers build systems. What else can you do with code (and LLMs; same thing) other than build systems?

idk man, plenty of people have "ai" gf/bf/therapist, ask "ai" for vacation trip ideas, recipes, gym workouts, &c. I wouldn't even be surprised if most tokens were used on non software engineering tasks. I have a zombie developer, coder, idk how to call them, in my team who doesn't talk to anyone, writes shit tier PRs and spends all day long talking to chatgpt. They're a prompter, a chatter, a waste of money, but cert…

> idk man, plenty of people have "ai" gf/bf/therapist, ask "ai" for vacation trip ideas, recipes, gym workouts, &c.

Not without engineering a system to get the AI to generate a response they don't.

> non software engineering tasks.

There is no non-software engineering task when using an LLM. All LLM use first requires designing software to get the LLM to do anything. An LLM will not autonomously act on its own. It can only respond in accordance to the the program you have designed for it.

That program can be written in natural language, granted, but software programs are not limited by the particular language they are written in. Its not somehow not a program just because you didn't write machine code on punch cards.

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

#148

Post by [deleted] »

hurrckplgbd wrote: post #131
standardly wrote: post #130

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I'm also guilty of what they accuse you of. Sometimes my internet comments are not made for the purpose of sparking discussion, but more of a "vent" where I know my take is not popular but I feel the need to throw it out there anyway. The comment is more for "me" than anyone else. And, yeah.. that makes it a bad comment lol. I also just love playing devil's advocate, and I'm adverse to hivemindy-feeling opinions (eve…

I don't have a problem with people doing that as long as they don't pretend that every other commenter holds the same contrary opinion and that the downvotes indicate they're too sensitive to discuss such things, or other similar rationalizations. If you want to leave some drive-by snark without rationalizing it as being about other people, it's not my favorite kind of comment but I'm not going to object to it either…

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Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

#149

Post by _jsmh »

hurrckplgbd wrote: post #138
monero-xmr wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My first comment on this whole thread was how security in tech is theater, and the sellers mostly snake oil salesmen. I’m not the first to make this observation and I don’t think it’s wrong. Which is why employment in the sector is down, full circle to the OP

Go ahead, take that slim, speculative, tangential connection and interpret it as permission to inject your hot take into the discussion. Decline to elaborate when your supposition is challenged. You've every right to do that. Just don't pretend that it's for our benefit or that we downvote it because we're unthinking drones, or that you decline to elaborate because we're simply not capable of having the discussion. I…

> Just don't pretend that it's for our benefit or that we downvote it because we're unthinking drones

The reason many comments are downvoted on HN in general is most often unknown to me. One interpretation is that it's a major flaw in HN.

This design decision by HN could be intentional, as a trade-off to achieve something else. For example, it could be done to have high velocity of discussion. High velocity could preserve an invariant of keeping or pulling users on the site.

If it's a trade-off, which would suggest something is given up for it, it might be worth exploring what's given up.

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

#150

Post by _jsmh »

monero-xmr wrote: post #141
hurrckplgbd wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Go ahead, take that slim, speculative, tangential connection and interpret it as permission to inject your hot take into the discussion. Decline to elaborate when your supposition is challenged. You've every right to do that. Just don't pretend that it's for our benefit or that we downvote it because we're unthinking drones, or that you decline to elaborate because we're simply not capable of having the discussion. I…

This website is full of unthinking drones acting with hive mind behavior, that is my contention, and I think very differently, not just on here but with almost everyone I engage with. However I succeed over and over with asymmetric bets on a wide variety of things, including and especially tech and making money in tech, so if we compare bank accounts and career trajectories, investments, etc. it would be wise to let…

> This website is full of unthinking drones acting with hive mind behavior

Maybe not "full", statistically, but many times I receive a similar impression.

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