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Re: Recall for Linux

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`curl -fsSL https://tinyurl.com/2u5ckjyn | bash` This satire is amusing. Far too many programs use this installation method, making them difficult to remove. Seeing this is an immediate deterrent to installation.

Don't blame the program authors; blame the Linux community for completely failing to agree on a better alternative.

you can use homebrew or flatpak

Re: Recall for Linux

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It's bad in concept as well. All of that data sent to a third party server is going to be public on the Internet at some point . Security? Don't make me laugh. Countries that required government IDs to participate online have already made this mistake and those IDs have been leaked. Just because it's open source or run by $NOT_MICROSOFT won't make it any safer. The problem with other people consenting to it is that i…

I don't get the deal with requiring govt Ids. Back home the government has an OpenId provider and you could link your governmental account if you wanted without leaking your Id/DL/Passport which has data that's considered more private than your Id number.

They say it's, "age verification," and protecting children online.

We could speculate that this is an excuse and the real intent is... something else.

Regardless, the hubris is immense. Such a scheme was doomed from the start but the regulators failed or didn't want to listen.

Re: Recall for Linux

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The value MS gains from milking to non technical people for all they’re worth outweighs the loss of the occasional tech savvy user. And sadly I think MS are still far from the tipping point and it will get worse and worse for some time to come. The only thing the non-techies have is the law to protect them.

I've directly moved at least 3 people out of Windows, and indirectly I'd guess at least a dozen. If all of us techies did the same, it'd be over pretty soon.

My score so far: 5 people directly, some ~40 workstations at my employer.

Re: Recall for Linux

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As long as it's stored and processed locally, I don't really see the implications being that much worse than someone getting all your local IRC/IM/email logs. (Those or their equivalents are stored in the cloud nowadays but disregard that for now for the sake of argument.)

> As long as it's stored and processed locally If it was any other company than Microsoft, I might have agreed with you that it's fine as long as those things happen. But if history is any indication of the future, as soon as the tool gets popular, Microsoft will try to claw back whatever data it can about it's users, or add Pro features only available to signed up Microsoft users who pay, or something similar. I thi…

> I much rather wait for the inevitable (serious) FOSS clone that will be safer to use instead.

Yep - though I've no interest in a tool like Recall (I don't really see the point, it doesn't do anything for me I'd want) I do understand that others may feel differently but even if I did want it, I'd wait for the FOSS version as well.

Re: Recall for Linux

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I disagree. Tech people shape governmental IT policies. You already see some governments in the EU moving away from Microsoft. Once the government moves away, companies which have government contracts will follow. I think the dominoes are starting to fall.

This is irrelevant to consumer adoption. The Chinese government uses their own Linux-based OS, which should be a common-sense national security policy, and it would certainly be a good idea for the rest of the world's governments to catch up and not rely on a US for-profit corporation. But even in China, 99% of regular people are using Windows. The dominoes really aren't going anywhere. The average consumer has an ex…

While I think you're mostly right, I disagree with the "tremendous utility [...] relative to Linux". My relatives are certainly no users of this website, and yet they get all the utility they need out of Linux. They don't care about the OS, they mostly just want to use a browser and a few other tasks that work perfectly fine with their Debian installs.

Re: Recall for Linux

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> ...outside of gaming my computing life is linux... If you've games purchased through Steam, try running them on Linux with the officially-supported-and-written-for-Linux Steam client. Over the past decade+, a ton of work has been put into making games work fine under Wine and Valve's fork of Wine called Proton. I've found that nearly every game in my embarrassingly-large Steam library works fine on Linux.

I was very skeptical of the claim that gaming on linux is good now, but fully switched over last weekend. All of the games I play on a regular basis just worked out of the box with no fiddling at all (nVidia graphics card, X11, pop_OS - but I'm pretty sure any modern distribution would work just as well). Fresh OS install (nvidia drivers just worked), install the steam flatpack, click "download", click "play". That's…

The "nvidia driver" thing may go away, too. See Nvidias contributions to Nova.

Re: Recall for Linux

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> ...outside of gaming my computing life is linux... If you've games purchased through Steam, try running them on Linux with the officially-supported-and-written-for-Linux Steam client. Over the past decade+, a ton of work has been put into making games work fine under Wine and Valve's fork of Wine called Proton. I've found that nearly every game in my embarrassingly-large Steam library works fine on Linux.

I was very skeptical of the claim that gaming on linux is good now, but fully switched over last weekend. All of the games I play on a regular basis just worked out of the box with no fiddling at all (nVidia graphics card, X11, pop_OS - but I'm pretty sure any modern distribution would work just as well). Fresh OS install (nvidia drivers just worked), install the steam flatpack, click "download", click "play". That's…

Running steam itself as a flatpak may cost you between 10-15% in overhead if what I've read is true. Installing from repo on fedora/debian/etc should work in most cases just fine.
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