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Post by BearOso »

almosthere wrote: post #90
Animats wrote: post #89

I wonder if civil forfeiture will work against Trump once he's out of office. Trump's net worth before becoming President was under US$1 billion. Now it's over 6 billion. A civil claim for the difference based on the Emoluments Acts. "The Foreign Emoluments Clause bars the president and other federal officials from accepting “any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or fo…

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Yes, and everybody who enriches themselves using their political positions. These jobs are as public servants. They're supposed to be working for the people. That's why the emoluments clause is there.

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Post by trhway »

doener wrote: post #111

"President Trump has pardoned Changpeng Zhao, the convicted founder of the crypto exchange Binance, following months of efforts by Zhao to boost the Trump family’s own crypto company." You Americans elected a mobster as President.

I feel there is some perversion happened - the American culture in particular has been strong on a hero cutting through and going across the laws and rules toward his goals (and the recent years super-hero craze is an epitome of it). And i feel that in some perverse way Trump got tuned into such a hero storyline and naturally abusing it to no end for his own gain.

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Post by yongjik »

Spivak wrote: post #115
genter wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. (And I say that as a Democrat in California)

It really does seem like folks on the right assume that people who vote Democrat have a lot more love for Democrats than we actually do. The whole Bill Clinton in the Epstein files thing is another example—like yeah man let him hang. There's very little loyalty, there's some truth to the party being a bunch of minorities nervously huddled around the DNC for warmth.

It's also a rhetorical trick. The moment you admit "Yes, Bill Clinton should go to jail if he's on the list," they will start to pester you, "You admitted Clinton should also go to jail, so why are you only protesting Trump? You hypocrite!"

I think it's best not to engage. These people aren't here for logical arguments, and they won't be persuaded by logic.

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Post by Matticus_Rex »

Animats wrote: post #89

I wonder if civil forfeiture will work against Trump once he's out of office. Trump's net worth before becoming President was under US$1 billion. Now it's over 6 billion. A civil claim for the difference based on the Emoluments Acts. "The Foreign Emoluments Clause bars the president and other federal officials from accepting “any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or fo…

No, this is pretty squarely outside the scope, and only specific amounts received from in-scope parties (i.e. governments) would be subject. And there's a standing issue. Basically the emoluments clause doesn't have real teeth for most purposes, even where it applies.

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Post by kobalsky »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #66

In contrast, SBF is still in jail despite being Biden's second biggest donor.

CZ crime was not complying with anti laundering US laws, which basically meant he didn't do KYC to keep USA users out. He got 4 months.

SBF stole user funds to basically role play as a billionare.

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Post by nashashmi »

doener wrote: post #111

"President Trump has pardoned Changpeng Zhao, the convicted founder of the crypto exchange Binance, following months of efforts by Zhao to boost the Trump family’s own crypto company." You Americans elected a mobster as President.

We Americans had our choices robbed of us. And we cannot think outside of the ballot sheet.

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Post by cowsandmilk »

almosthere wrote: post #90
Animats wrote: post #89

I wonder if civil forfeiture will work against Trump once he's out of office. Trump's net worth before becoming President was under US$1 billion. Now it's over 6 billion. A civil claim for the difference based on the Emoluments Acts. "The Foreign Emoluments Clause bars the president and other federal officials from accepting “any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or fo…

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Every time someone digs into this, it turns out Pelosi’s large wealth is much more tied to buying SF real estate long before the tech boom sent the real estate prices soaring. It doesn’t take insider trading for someone to have gotten rich in the SF real estate market. Plenty of people became millionaires just by owning a condo they bought in the 1970’s. It is no surprise that someone whose career has been real estate investing in SF since the 1960’s made some money…

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Post by drjasonharrison »

gleenn wrote: post #131
sleepybrett wrote: post #125

If we ever get trump out of office we need to re-arrest every last one of these guys. The supremes can whine and cry as we keep them in prison. They can raise an army if the want anything different. Serious controls need to be placed around the pardon power.

Double Jeopardy is disallowed in the United States, they would have to be convicted on new crimes.

So much of what DJT is doing should be disallowed but isn't. So we can disallow them and then add an amendment to reverse all DJT executive orders and pardons.

I'm joking! Everything will be broken by then.

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