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Re: Meta is axing 600 roles across its AI division

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Post by KaiserPro »

ceejayoz wrote: post #3

Because the AI works so well, or because it doesn't? > ”By reducing the size of our team, fewer conversations will be required to make a decision, and each person will be more load-bearing and have more scope and impact,” Wang writes in a memo seen by Axios. That's kinda wild. I'm kinda shocked they put it in writing.

They properly fucked FAIR. it was a lead, if not the leading AI lab.

then they gave it to Chris Cox, the Midas of shit. It languished in "product" trying to do applied research. The rot had set in by mid 2024 if not earlier.

Then someone convinced Zuck that he needed what ever that new kid is, and the rest is history.

Meta has too many staff, exceptionally poor leadership, and a performance system that rewards bullshitters.

Re: Meta is axing 600 roles across its AI division

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Post by KaiserPro »

varjag wrote: post #113
malthaus wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

... until reality catches up with a software engineer's inability to see outside of the narrow engineering field of view, neglecting most things that the end-users will care about, millions if not billions are wasted and leadership sees that checks and balances for the engineering team might be warranted after all because while velocity was there, you now have an overengineered product nobody wants to pay for.

There's little evidence that this is a common problem.

there is in meta.

Userneed is very much second to company priority metrics.

Re: Meta is axing 600 roles across its AI division

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Post by [deleted] »

cheeze wrote: post #75
asdev wrote: post #17

they've lost on basically all fronts of AI right?

I'm confused about Meta AI in general. It's _horrible_ compared to every other LLM I use. Customer ingress is weird to me too - do they expect people to use Facebook chat (Messenger) to talk to Meta AI mainly? I've tried it on messenger, the website, and have run llama locally. My (completely uninformed, spitballing) thinking is that Facebook doesn't care that much about AI for end users. THe benefit here is for thei…

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Post by browningstreet »

Aperocky wrote: post #130
deanc wrote: post #107

Meta is fumbling hard. Winning the AI race is about marketing at this point - the difference between the models is negligible. Chat GPT is the one on everyone's lips outside of technology, and in the media. They have a platform by which to push some kind of assistant but where is it? I log into facebook and it's buried in the sidebar as Meta AI. Why aren't they shoving it down my throat? They have a huge platform of…

Winning the AI race is winning the application war. Similar to how internet, OS has been there for a long time, but the ecosystem took years to build. But application work is toiling and knowing the question set even with AI help, that's doesn't bode well for teams whose goal is owning and profiting from super AI that can do everything. But maybe something will change? Maybe adversarial agents will see improvements l…

Meta is the worst at building platforms out of the big players. If you're not building to Facebook or Metaverse, what would you be building for if you were all-in on Meta AI? Instagram + AI will be significant, but not Meta-level significant, and it's closed. Facebook is a monster but no one's building to it, and even Mark knows it is tomorrow's Yahoo.

Microsoft has filled in their entire product line with Copilot, Google is filling everything with Gemini, Apple has platforms but no AI, and OpenAI is firing on all cylinders.. at least in terms of mindshare and AUMs.

Re: Meta is axing 600 roles across its AI division

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Post by jfim »

Rebuff5007 wrote: post #126

From a quick online search: - OpenAI's mission is to build safe AI, and ensure AI's benefits are as widely and evenly distributed as possible. - Google's mission is to organise the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful. - Meta's mission is to build the future of human connection and the technology that makes it possible. Lets just take these three companies, and their self-defined mission…

Maybe the future of human connection is chatting with a large language model, at least according to Meta. Haven't they added chatbots to messenger?

Re: Meta is axing 600 roles across its AI division

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Post by heathrow83829 »

Rebuff5007 wrote: post #126

From a quick online search: - OpenAI's mission is to build safe AI, and ensure AI's benefits are as widely and evenly distributed as possible. - Google's mission is to organise the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful. - Meta's mission is to build the future of human connection and the technology that makes it possible. Lets just take these three companies, and their self-defined mission…

i've been wondering this for some time as well. what's it all for? the only product i see in their lineup that seems obvious is the meta glasses.

Other then that I guess AI would have to be used in their ad platform perhaps for better targetting. Ad targetting is absolutely atrocious right now, at least for me personally.

Re: Meta is axing 600 roles across its AI division

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Post by Epa095 »

Rebuff5007 wrote: post #126

From a quick online search: - OpenAI's mission is to build safe AI, and ensure AI's benefits are as widely and evenly distributed as possible. - Google's mission is to organise the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful. - Meta's mission is to build the future of human connection and the technology that makes it possible. Lets just take these three companies, and their self-defined mission…

Why care what they say their mission is? Its clearly to be on top of a possible AI-wave and become or remain a huge company in the future, increasing value for their stock owners. Everything else is BS.

Re: Meta is axing 600 roles across its AI division

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Post by ajkjk »

Rebuff5007 wrote: post #126

From a quick online search: - OpenAI's mission is to build safe AI, and ensure AI's benefits are as widely and evenly distributed as possible. - Google's mission is to organise the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful. - Meta's mission is to build the future of human connection and the technology that makes it possible. Lets just take these three companies, and their self-defined mission…

each of those is of course an answer to the question "what's some PR bullshit we can say to distract people while we get rich"

After all it is clear that if those were their actual missions they would be doing very different work.

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Post by warkdarrior »

mlindner wrote: post #139
Rebuff5007 wrote: post #126

From a quick online search: - OpenAI's mission is to build safe AI, and ensure AI's benefits are as widely and evenly distributed as possible. - Google's mission is to organise the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful. - Meta's mission is to build the future of human connection and the technology that makes it possible. Lets just take these three companies, and their self-defined mission…

Kinda ignoring Grok there which is the leader in many benchmarks.

X.ai's stated goal is "build AI specifically to advance human comprehension and capabilities," so somewhat similar to OpenAI's.

Re: Meta is axing 600 roles across its AI division

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Post by _vqpz »

linhns wrote: post #121
ls-a wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I heard the same about Satya. Not only does he exclusively hire Indians, but specific Indians too

Indians hire their relatives and pals, that’s nothing to be surprised of.

...is there a nationality or ethnicity that doesn't?
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