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Wikipedia says traffic is falling due to AI search summaries and social video

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Re: Wikipedia says traffic is falling due to AI search summaries and social video

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That little AI generated summary that seems to show up in every Google search is riddled with errors. I've learned that as often as not it's just making things up or confusing two different topics. I would not trust that thing under any circumstances. Its no better than a wild guess from a stranger on the street.

Re: Wikipedia says traffic is falling due to AI search summaries and social video

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The younger generation absolutely use Tiktok search to find information.

I'm sure they do. Is that their primary source? Do they use nothing else? Is any of that information put to economic use in their lives or is it just curiosity?

They buy a ton of stuff from Tik-Tok and Instagram ads - yes.

Re: Wikipedia says traffic is falling due to AI search summaries and social video

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Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world can write anything they want about any subject, so you know you are getting the best possible information.

Well, any writes are reverted within seconds by the gatekeepers, but sure, ok.

the free encyclopedia that ANYONE from Black Mesa can edit!

Re: Wikipedia says traffic is falling due to AI search summaries and social video

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Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world can write anything they want about any subject, so you know you are getting the best possible information.

Well, any writes are reverted within seconds by the gatekeepers, but sure, ok.

Of the dozens of contributions I've made over the decades, some recent, either zero or one of them have been reverted.

Re: Wikipedia says traffic is falling due to AI search summaries and social video

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If a company retains earnings, it has to pay taxes on them (as profits), but the money is still at risk (from a shareholder’s point of view) if something bad happens to the company (lawsuit or market problem). Shareholders usually want to receive whatever money the company has saved up, to safeguard it from being lost for no reason, and so that they (the shareholder) can put it to use elsewhere. This would change if…

That doesn't fully explain why this doesn't happen with non-profits.

Many nonprofits do this — it’s called an endowment fund.

Re: Wikipedia says traffic is falling due to AI search summaries and social video

#147
You have to keep in mind that the original google search, by summarizing search results based on links between pages, essentially destroyed the web of interconnected links that existed at that time, so that the original pagerank algorithm doesn't even really work anymore. And the search results Google returns are worse than they were years ago. And you know, I use it, it is still super convenient, and the long term effects took some time to become apparent.

Now it is again feeding on and regurgitating Wikipedia but again in a way that will end up destroying the thing it is summarizing. Aggregators are parasitic on the thing they derive information from.

Re: Wikipedia says traffic is falling due to AI search summaries and social video

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Well, any writes are reverted within seconds by the gatekeepers, but sure, ok.

Of the dozens of contributions I've made over the decades, some recent, either zero or one of them have been reverted.

what topics did you make contributions to? From what I understand, it's mostly political and/or controversial topics that have this issue.

Re: Wikipedia says traffic is falling due to AI search summaries and social video

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Elon Musk is launching Grokipedia this week as a competition to Wikipedia.

LOL I just tried to search "U2" on it but it sent me to a Twitter post. That Twitter post required me to login to see if I wanted to see it. What a joke.

It hasn't launched yet.

Re: Wikipedia says traffic is falling due to AI search summaries and social video

#150

LLM's have definitely replaced 90% of what I used to look up on a Wikipedia, simply because they integrate from so many more additional sources. But at the same time I continue to contribute edits to Wikipedia. Because it's the source of so much data. To me, it doesn't matter if the information I contribute gets consumed on Wikipedia or consumed via LLM. Either way, it's helping people. Wikipedia isn't going away, ev…

> Either way, it's helping people. Wikipedia gives away your creation for free. The LLM companies do not. Google is operating a loss leader and not "helping people." In fact, quite the opposite.

Counterpoint: I'm fine paying for convenience.

Wikipedia should still exist, but I'm fine giving OpenAI 20 bucks a month to make my life easier.

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