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Solution to CIA’s Kryptos sculpture is found in Smithsonian vault

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Still, it’s good to keep in perspective during these discussions where it’s made to seem like people are being asked to pay millions for healthcare that were not really talking about bills that high.

I don’t think that matters - if you can’t afford $15k, the bill might as well be $10 million, as you still can’t pay.

Nonsense. You can go into debt for $15k. Plenty of places will give you that much even with terrible credit. No one is giving you $10 million.

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> capped at like $15k per year right? That’s a lot of money for most retirees.

It’s not that much money considering the crazy amount of hospital time and advanced treatments administered. That’s 25% of the average annual salary in the United States and you should be able to pay that for once in a lifetime treatments.

> That’s 25% of the average annual salary in the United States

It's about 25% of the median annual full-time salary (but only ~70-75% of those employed in any given year are employed full-time for the whole year.)

More to the point, since salary doesn't tell you what people have lying around for emergencies, its more than double the median household total savings.

Even more to the point, population medians or avergaes for things like salary are not really applicable to subsets of the population like “retirees”.

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I don’t think that matters - if you can’t afford $15k, the bill might as well be $10 million, as you still can’t pay.

Nonsense. You can go into debt for $15k. Plenty of places will give you that much even with terrible credit. No one is giving you $10 million.

Retirees in need of medical treatment without the resources to pay $15K out of pocket are probably not the subset of the population with the easiest access to significant credit.

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That's not a tort in American law. In this country contractual arrangement is required for tortious interference.

There was a contract between the auction house and the artist. However that’s not strictly required: “Wrongful interference in a business relationship occurs when there is no contract. The defendant attempts to disrupt the relationship, causing economic harm. If the defendant defames the business owner’s product, resulting in loss of business, that is tortious interference in the business.” https://www.findlaw.com/sm…

Your cite is about interference of contract... interference of business relationship is not an American tort.

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There would need to be (1) an existing valid contract, (2) knowledge by the defendants of it, (3) intentional and unjustified inducements by the defendants to break it, followed by (4) an actual breach that (5) caused damages. Doesn't seem like that would fit here. This seems like more of an ethical dilemma than a legal one.

> There would need to be (1) an existing valid contract, Your (1) is false. You can damage a business relationship that doesn’t involve a signed contract. “Tortious interference with business relationships occurs where the tortfeasor intentionally acts to prevent someone from successfully establishing or maintaining business relationships with others.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tortious_interference

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