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Ofcom fines 4chan £20K and counting for violating UK's Online Safety Act

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Re: Ofcom fines 4chan £20K and counting for violating UK's Online Safety Act

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post #71

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It’s quite literally the perfect example of symbolic action.

Imprisonment is the polar opposite of symbolic action.

Correct, but irrelevant, since nobody has been imprisoned

Edit: and nobody realistically could be

Re: Ofcom fines 4chan £20K and counting for violating UK's Online Safety Act

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post #9

4chan is fighting them as well. https://www.techdirt.com/2025/09/05/when-trolls-take-on-tyra...

Thanks for posting, an insightful overview of the ramifications of the Online Safety Act on online freedoms. > Perhaps most troubling, the UK’s approach sets a dangerous precedent for global internet regulation. If every country can claim jurisdiction over any website accessible within its borders, the internet becomes subject to the most restrictive speech laws anywhere in the world. Another interesting point is tha…

The UK already blocks certain websites at the national level, e.g. you can’t access Pirate Bay from a UK ISP, so can’t imagine Ofcom blocking 4chan would cause much consternation among those who aren’t already against the OSA.

Re: Ofcom fines 4chan £20K and counting for violating UK's Online Safety Act

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At this point every major website and "smart" phone app should just refuse to comply with these idiotic laws and simply block UK users. It's only when the masses realize that the freedoms they care about are being eroded that something will change.

Re: Ofcom fines 4chan £20K and counting for violating UK's Online Safety Act

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Yes the government have already talked about banning VPNs and government taking copies of your private keys :-/

This is a little wild to think about. It would make infosec impossible in the UK. Imagine the IT departments of every mutltinational corporation desperately trying to sort out permissions to keep important information off of machines deployed in the UK. New authorization groups for everyone in the UK, lots of meetings with lawyers to sort out what they can have access to. Everyone in the UK becomes a second class psu…

Oh, they'll just introduce mandatory digital ID, and the vpn registration.

Companies will be permitted to use vpns as long as their AUP forbid employees from using their own for personal reasons.

Or so.

Plenty of the ways authoritarian can go.

Re: Ofcom fines 4chan £20K and counting for violating UK's Online Safety Act

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post #47

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Ofcom does what the government tells it to do. And the government does what people tell them to do. You underestimate the popular support for censorship laws in the UK - the country still had a legally-empowered "Board of Film Censors" in 2010...

My government doesn't seem to be listening to me, did you have yours professionally trained or something?

> did you have yours professionally trained or something?

It's rather simple really; the secret is money.

Only then can you tame a politician.

Re: Ofcom fines 4chan £20K and counting for violating UK's Online Safety Act

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes the government have already talked about banning VPNs and government taking copies of your private keys :-/

This is a little wild to think about. It would make infosec impossible in the UK. Imagine the IT departments of every mutltinational corporation desperately trying to sort out permissions to keep important information off of machines deployed in the UK. New authorization groups for everyone in the UK, lots of meetings with lawyers to sort out what they can have access to. Everyone in the UK becomes a second class psu…

That would be the proposal from IT, and the response from the C-suite will be "that's unfortunate, lay them all off."

Re: Ofcom fines 4chan £20K and counting for violating UK's Online Safety Act

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post #110

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What private keys? Any private keys?

No one has seriously discussed banning VPN's - one minister mentioned they where looking it and no one said anything about private keys either as far as I know . If I'm wrong someone can drop me a link since I live in the UK.

it's been mulled over and keeps getting brought up again and again, the Overton window has shifted from "go away and come back when you're serious to", "christ how would we comply with that?" https://nordvpn.com/blog/tech-world-angry-with-theresa-mays-...

If you live here how can you not spot how every govt since they kicked out brown has been pushing for this?

Re: Ofcom fines 4chan £20K and counting for violating UK's Online Safety Act

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What do they seek to accomplish here? There is strong precedent for the US defending the 1st amendment against foreign interests. No UK bureaucrats are going to make a career out of this. Going after a company that can defend itself and can't be intimidated, will prevent them from bluffing successfully against smaller companies, who could realistically be intimidated. If I were working at Ofcom, I would stay away fro…

> it doesn't look like these Ofcom guys are playing with a full deck they're a quango, staffed by those who couldn't make it as civil servants (not a high bar) I'd be surprised if anyone who works there has ever used the internet similarly useless are ofwat (water) and ofgem (energy), both of which allowed massive scandals to happen on their watch ofwat: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/jul/21/new-powerfu...…

it's asif we need to reform the system and find a better way...

Re: Ofcom fines 4chan £20K and counting for violating UK's Online Safety Act

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post #80

What do they seek to accomplish here? There is strong precedent for the US defending the 1st amendment against foreign interests. No UK bureaucrats are going to make a career out of this. Going after a company that can defend itself and can't be intimidated, will prevent them from bluffing successfully against smaller companies, who could realistically be intimidated. If I were working at Ofcom, I would stay away fro…

I think you’re overanalyzing it. They’re just enforcing the law. You and I may agree that it’s a bad law, but that doesn’t mean that the people in charge of enforcing it necessarily have complex and sinister motives.

no, ofcom don't need to be picking the fights they are, they're choosing to support the political arm under the claims of "hate speech" and "ungood bad think"

Re: Ofcom fines 4chan £20K and counting for violating UK's Online Safety Act

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post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it doesn't look like these Ofcom guys are playing with a full deck they're a quango, staffed by those who couldn't make it as civil servants (not a high bar) I'd be surprised if anyone who works there has ever used the internet similarly useless are ofwat (water) and ofgem (energy), both of which allowed massive scandals to happen on their watch ofwat: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/jul/21/new-powerfu...…

it's asif we need to reform the system and find a better way...

ofwat is shortly to be abolished

(whether or not that will help is another matter)

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