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Re: MrBeast Failed to Disclose Ads and Improperly Collected Children's Data

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Post by archerx »

paulcole wrote: post #98
SilverElfin wrote: post #75

Does anyone remember when this person who worked for Mr Beast outed their fraudulent tactics? You couldn’t bring it up in a comment on their videos at all. They had a team continuous censoring all honest discussion on their videos. I find the whole phenomenon around Beast to be gross. https://youtu.be/k5xf40KrK3I

> I Worked For MrBeast, He's A Fraud He learned from the master lol. Missing a wide-eyed surprised face thumbnail though. I mean not a lot of people are out there making "I Worked for ________, They Were Awesome & I Was the One Who Sucked" videos, right?

I mean if you would have watched the videos you’d have seen that the points he makes are quite valid. Also you are “judging a book by its cover”.

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Post by exabrial »

BanazirGalbasi wrote: post #58
exabrial wrote: post #35

LOL. Just wait until you see TikTok, SnapChat, Facebook, Apple, Google, etc.

This is whataboutism. Just because they are also doing it doesn't mean its okay to do at all. It just means that Mr. Beast is the one being focused on here, and that other organizations will have to wait their turn.

I like to call it "Selective Enforcement"

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Post by dylan604 »

ryandrake wrote: post #53
dylan604 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's strange to me that you'd compare something that's been around longer to the thing that's more recent in this way

The point is that despite their deliberately confusing decision to have the word "Bureau" in their name, they have absolutely nothing to do with the government or anything official. They are as official as JD Power, Consumer Reports or Yelp. I wonder how many millions of people continue to be fooled by their deceptive name?

Federal Express is not part of the federal anything, yet nobody is confused by that.

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Post by mlinhares »

gosub100 wrote: post #93
mlinhares wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been overly aggressive blocking channels on youtube whenever i click on shit like that by accident and my recommendations are mostly safe.

The problem is the copycat and adjacent channels. You watch and block $BOZO, you now get suggestions for $BOZO reacts, $BOZO extras, $BOZO clips, and all of $BOZO's competitor channels.

Yeah, youtube recommendations get into the shit rabbit role much faster than any other platform.

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Post by jonhohle »

wmichelin wrote: post #61
pluc wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really. Algorithmic pushes have made it look like if it's popular, it's credible. This credibility is entirely engineered. Same reason why kids die from TikTok challenges.

The way this is written makes it sound like you think there's an algorithm saying "if bad person: then boost". The credibility is ranking. The ranking is a function of engagement. The engagement is a function of human nature. Things delightful, shocking, or unusual usually strike that chord. Sprinkle capitalism into the mix and people become professionally delightful, shocking, or unusual. I don't think the ranking a…

I didn’t read it that way. Algorithms select for optimizing engagement. People whose brains have not fully developed are incapable of reliably distinguishing fiction presented as fact vs reality, especially when there is intentional deception. Combine those and you get engaging content that can influence a portion of the population with limited defense mechanisms against it.

This is also why minors can’t sign contracts, why broadcasts television used to only show more mature content after prime time, and all of the other ways children have historically been protected.

This isn’t about capitalism among equal parties.

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Post by general1465 »

justforfunhere wrote: post #118
andsoitis wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But why would he lie?” SPOILER - Three Body Problem (book, series on Netflix) I love the scene where the human tells the aliens that humans sometimes lie and the aliens conclude that humans can never be trusted so they break communication.

That was really good twist in the book. It made me think a lot what a normal Trisolaran conversation or exchange of information look like? How does a civilization evolve in this case?

How would such civilization even survive to discover a wheel if it can't recognize lie or misinformation. Even animals are able to lie - that's what mimicry and camouflage is all about.

Imagination is also form of a lie. You are making stuff up in your head. Without imagination you don't have innovation. Without innovation you are stuck in cave scavenging whatever you can find.

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Post by andrewstuart2 »

SilverElfin wrote: post #75

Does anyone remember when this person who worked for Mr Beast outed their fraudulent tactics? You couldn’t bring it up in a comment on their videos at all. They had a team continuous censoring all honest discussion on their videos. I find the whole phenomenon around Beast to be gross. https://youtu.be/k5xf40KrK3I

Interestingly, this HN post is now on page 3 with ~300 points in an hour. Which probably means it's been flagged a bunch of times if I understand the HN ranking algorithm. Either that or the mod team has demoted it but that doesn't seem likely in this case.

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Post by hollerith »

SilverElfin wrote: post #75

Does anyone remember when this person who worked for Mr Beast outed their fraudulent tactics? You couldn’t bring it up in a comment on their videos at all. They had a team continuous censoring all honest discussion on their videos. I find the whole phenomenon around Beast to be gross. https://youtu.be/k5xf40KrK3I

I agree, but at least it was possible to tell he probably plays fast and loose with the truth and would probably do almost anything for more money or more applause simply by watching a few minutes of his videos, or at least that was my experience.
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