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OpenAI and Nvidia announce partnership to deploy 10GW of Nvidia systems

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Re: OpenAI and Nvidia announce partnership to deploy 10GW of Nvidia systems

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Can we get some laws to force these companies to start subsidizing the consumer grids they're pummeling? The electric bills are getting out of hand.

They would build their own power lines / grid if they could.

... why? the current (heh) situation is that they do these big announcements and then local/state governments around the US get in a bidding war to try to shift costs from the datacenter operator on to their own citizens, in addition to offloading all of the capex.

Re: OpenAI and Nvidia announce partnership to deploy 10GW of Nvidia systems

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post #108

This is throwing more cards on the house of cards. Nvidia is “investing” in OpenAI so OpenAI can buy GPUs from NVidia. Textbook “round tripping.” I generally like what’s been happening with AI but man this is gonna crash hard when reality sets in. We’re reaching the scary stage of a bubble where folks are forced to throw more and more cash on the fire to keep it going with no clear path to ever get that cash back. If…

I do not think the leveraging is going to end there. I suspect this will be used to justify/secure power generation investments, possibly even nuclear. Likely via one or more of the OpenAI/Altman adjacent power startups.

Altman is all in on converting the solar system into a Dyson sphere to power OpenAI.

Re: OpenAI and Nvidia announce partnership to deploy 10GW of Nvidia systems

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post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do not think the leveraging is going to end there. I suspect this will be used to justify/secure power generation investments, possibly even nuclear. Likely via one or more of the OpenAI/Altman adjacent power startups.

On the bright side, if lots of power capacity is added and most of the GPUs end up idle, then there might be cheap power available for other uses.

And computing in general gets cheaper.

Re: OpenAI and Nvidia announce partnership to deploy 10GW of Nvidia systems

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10 gigawatts sounds ridiculously high, how can you estimate the actual usage? I guess they are not running at capacity 24/7 right? Because that would be more than the consumption of several European countries, like Finland and Belgium:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_electri...

Re: OpenAI and Nvidia announce partnership to deploy 10GW of Nvidia systems

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post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do not think the leveraging is going to end there. I suspect this will be used to justify/secure power generation investments, possibly even nuclear. Likely via one or more of the OpenAI/Altman adjacent power startups.

On the bright side, if lots of power capacity is added and most of the GPUs end up idle, then there might be cheap power available for other uses.

Power generation is not a monolithic enterprise. If more supply is built than needed, certain suppliers will go bankrupt.

Re: OpenAI and Nvidia announce partnership to deploy 10GW of Nvidia systems

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For someone who doesn't know what a gigawat worth of Nvidia systems is, how many high-end H100 or whatever does this get you? My estimates along with some poor-grade GPT research leads me to think it could be nearly 10 million? That does seem insane.

You could think of it as "as much power as is used by NYC and Chicago combined". Which is fucking insanely wasteful.

I mean if 10GW of GPUs gets us AGI and we cure cancer than that's cool, but I do get the feeling we're just getting uncannier chatbots and fully automated tiktok influencers

Re: OpenAI and Nvidia announce partnership to deploy 10GW of Nvidia systems

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could think of it as "as much power as is used by NYC and Chicago combined". Which is fucking insanely wasteful.

I dunno. Google is pretty useful. It uses >15 TWh per year. Theoretically, AI could be more useful than that. Theoretically, in the future, it could be the same amount of useful (or much more) with substantially less power usage. It could be a short-term crunch to pull-forward (slightly) AI advancements. Additionally, I'm extremely skeptical they'll actually turn on this many chips using that much energy globally in…

Does Google not include AI?

Re: OpenAI and Nvidia announce partnership to deploy 10GW of Nvidia systems

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post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the bright side, if lots of power capacity is added and most of the GPUs end up idle, then there might be cheap power available for other uses.

And computing in general gets cheaper.

heating our homes next winter with clusters of h100s
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