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Cloudflare is sponsoring Ladybird and Omarchy

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Re: Cloudflare is sponsoring Ladybird and Omarchy

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Post by slightwinder »

robinhood wrote: post #83
femiagbabiaka wrote: post #35

I cannot for the life of me understand the Omarchy hype. The Linux community has been theming their distribution installs for decades. What distinguishes this from that?

The great strength of Omarchy is the fact that they've repackaged every good things from many different projects (arch, hyperland, and many packages) so I can install a fully functional distro with nice defaults, and every hardware working (bluetooth etc...), in less than 3 minutes without any interaction whatsoever. And it just works. Not because of Omarchy per se, but because they scripted the hell out of it so it…

How well does it work if I want to move outside the scripted defaults?

Re: Cloudflare is sponsoring Ladybird and Omarchy

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Post by deadbabe »

nkotov wrote: post #134
robinhood wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand why we always assume bad faith. I wish more companies were like Cloudflare actually - trying to balance the need of revenues while trying to do good for internet and open source as a whole. As a normal user with a few sites, I'm glad they provide what they provide to block bots, attacks and everything AI.

Cloudflare is trying to establish itself as the toll station for AI. And anyone who doesn't play by their rules gets excommunicated.

And what are the rules? Don’t use AI to steal training content across the internet, spread nuclear grade spam and propaganda at scale, hack servers with automated agents? Seems fine.

Re: Cloudflare is sponsoring Ladybird and Omarchy

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Post by StopDisinfo910 »

bigyabai wrote: post #132
scared_together wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Apple isn't the only one standing in the way of a Google hegemony. Who else would you consider? Chromium-based browsers from companies other than Google are still contributing to Google’s hegemony. And Mozilla is funded by Google.

KHTML, Gecko, most Blink forks.

KHTML development stopped nearly ten years ago and I don’t know any significant Blink forks.

Re: Cloudflare is sponsoring Ladybird and Omarchy

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Post by troupo »

skybrian wrote: post #127
cosmic_cheese wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If/when Apple is forced to start allowing Blink on iOS globally, all it takes is a hearty marketing push from Google and devs putting “best viewed in Chrome” badges on their sites for Safari’s marketshare (and with it, Apple’s influence) to plummet.

Given how AMP eventually died, it seems unlikely that web developers would go along with it. What’s in it for them? Also, I don’t see any sign that Google even wants to do it? This is not really evidence-based reasoning, it’s just “I can imagine something evil that Google might do.”

> This is not really evidence-based reasoning, it’s just “I can imagine something evil that Google might do.”

Please read Mozilla's story on how Google sabotaged them: https://archive.is/tgIH9

Oh. And they very literally killed Internet Explorer: https://blog.chriszacharias.com/a-conspiracy-to-kill-ie6

Oh. And Google's mobile apps always conveniently forget the setting of "always use system browser and never ask me", and will keep asking you to open with "chrome", "google", or "system browser".

Oh and...

Re: Cloudflare is sponsoring Ladybird and Omarchy

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Post by arrowtrench »

nomdep wrote: post #119
indigodaddy wrote: post #9

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Also isn't it just a script to install some stuff and customize

Like Dropbox was "just an sftp server"

Managing servers that store terabytes of data for you isn't exactly the same as configuring and stitching Linux programs together.

Re: Cloudflare is sponsoring Ladybird and Omarchy

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Post by Exoristos »

oefrha wrote: post #19

I’m skeptical. Cloudflare clearly wants to move us to a future where only approved browsers are allowed to access the web. People have been fiercely debating whether that’s a terrible thing, or whether that’s the least bad practical solution on offer for website owners. I don’t want to make a judgement on that, but I don’t think the observation that CF is pushing us in that direction is very controversial. But an ind…

I would think it's like Vercel and Svelte. Investing in something so small is good PR and gives them an image of goodwill but also very unlikely to result in actual market changes.

Re: Cloudflare is sponsoring Ladybird and Omarchy

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Post by slightwinder »

femiagbabiaka wrote: post #35

I cannot for the life of me understand the Omarchy hype. The Linux community has been theming their distribution installs for decades. What distinguishes this from that?

The interesting part is, how not dev-friendly their website looks and acts. It smells more like a toy for r/unixporn than something that actually caters to real developers. How old is this project? Is this just a result of lacking manpower?

Re: Cloudflare is sponsoring Ladybird and Omarchy

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Post by scubbo »

xandrius wrote: post #86
robinhood wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand why we always assume bad faith. I wish more companies were like Cloudflare actually - trying to balance the need of revenues while trying to do good for internet and open source as a whole. As a normal user with a few sites, I'm glad they provide what they provide to block bots, attacks and everything AI.

There is no way you didn't write this comment while laughing out loud. For-profit companies care about profits for their shareholders, that's it. Heck, even non-profit often tend to value more profit than their integrity or cause but that's a topic for another day. I wish this wasn't the case but even good-willed individuals at the helm of for-profits are forced to pursue profit and avoid anything clearly leading to…

It is baffling and concerning that anyone disagrees with you. The blind faith of so many that companies will magically and selflessly act in the best interest of anyone but their shareholders is, perhaps, the most damaging social ill we face (exacerbated by Citizens United).

Re: Cloudflare is sponsoring Ladybird and Omarchy

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Post by dham »

CSDude wrote: post #136
femiagbabiaka wrote: post #35

I cannot for the life of me understand the Omarchy hype. The Linux community has been theming their distribution installs for decades. What distinguishes this from that?

It's so opinionated but many people find it okay. And it's hard to install Arch successfully. Compared to Ubuntu Arch's package manager (also combined with AUR) are great. I use every possible opportunity to say "Fuck Ubuntu Snaps"

>And it's hard to install Arch successfully.

archinstall. You can even select a DE in it

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