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Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by zitterbewegung »

AndyKelley wrote: post #16
ethagnawl wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's possible but I think Hanlon's Razor is more likely. I saw this happen myself and the form submission was successful on the second attempt. I just don't think they had the capacity to handle this surge of traffic to this endpoint/service.

It can be a mixture of both. It's extremely easy to Cover Your Ass while intentionally dragging your feet when a bug works in your favor. The manager simply has to decide that other tasks are higher priority.

You see this in video games. Game breaking bugs ? Next week. People can’t buy or use a skin(s) for a weapon? Less than 24 hr fix .

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Post by SantalBlush »

Ferret7446 wrote: post #124
lovelearning wrote: post #102

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The problem with "Hanlon's Razor" is that everything can be explained by incompetence by making suitable assumptions. It outright denies the possibility of malice and pretends as if malice is rare. Basically, a call to always give the benefit of the doubt to every person or participant's moral character without any analysis whatsoever of their track record. Robert Hanlon himself doesn't seem to be notable in any area…

That's because actual malice IS rare. Corporations are not filled with evil people, but people make perfectly rational, normal decisions based on their incentives that result in the emergent phenomenon of perceived malicious actions. Even Hitler's actions can be traced through a perfectly understandable, although not morally condone-able, chain of events. I truly believe that he did not want to just kill people and c…

The "malice" part of the razor is bait. People typically act out of self-interest, not malice. That's why anyone who parrots Hanlon's Razor has already lost; they fell for the false dichotomy between malice and incompetence, when self-interest isn't even offered as an explanation.

Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by epistasis »

fakeBeerDrinker wrote: post #58
epistasis wrote: post #35

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The FCC chair threatening your broadcast license is a pretty good "excuse". There wasn't a public outcry, it was a government outcry along with threats along multiple lines of leverage.

He was last averaging 129K viewers per episode in the 18-49 demographic, I'd say that is a far better "excuse" than a threat from the FCC. As if DIS doesn't have a legion of attorneys. Give me a break.

If he was averaging suppoosedly bad numbers, why wasn't he fired before? Just a pure coincidence?

I'm not sure if you think people are extremely gullible, because one would have to be in order to buy that line.

If there's a threat going on, and an another excuse the threatened can blame, the threat is no less potent.

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

defrost wrote: post #134
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #120

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> he doesn't say that the shooter was MAGA, only that those within the right wing influencer sphere were desperately trying to characterize the shooter as anything other than one of them. This is unambiguously and factually true. I'll put it in the technically true but ambiguously misinformation category. (Which is on every metric better than what goes on at Fox.)

> technically true but ambiguous which has been the backbone of satirical and scathing social and political commentary in the western world for 50 years at least. The Daily Show, The -s30e102- 2025-09-18 Maria Ressa episode with Jon Stewart's monologue and interview went another way, "rolling over" completely into total Trump submission followed by drawing direct comparisons to Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte po…

Yup.

The number of people defending this makes me seriously wonder if we need a two-speed democracy. One class that is given safety. The other who is exposed to dangerous elements like Jimmy Kimmel…

Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by ethbr1 »

bluGill wrote: post #125
Cheer2171 wrote: post #55

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FCC chair literally said "We can do this the easy way or the hard way" the easy way being ABC cancelling it, the hard way being pulling the license. And if you wait for the license to be pulled as your red line, you misunderstand how this works. This is an actual threat, the kind of thing that mobsters get RICO charges for. The threat has done its work and served the purposes of the administration. The crime has alre…

Anyone can say anything. Follow through and abc can just ignore the order and tell everyone watching what is happening. They have the power of the pen and will get people running to their congressman. they blinked so we will never know.

> Anyone can say anything.

Not as the federal government, because it explicitly lacks the freedom of speech citizens are ensured by the Constitution.

And absent a first amendment claim, the best defense they can come up with would be 'We were joking.'

Which, given the well-cited history of coercion by this administration (both in verbalized plans and actions), would be a hard defense to make.

Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by bitlax »

bitlax wrote: post #89
rogerrogerr wrote: post #18

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Not so much offensive, as utterly puzzling given the information we had on him by Monday night. Not a fan of Trump or Jimmy, and I don’t think this is a proportional or good response. I’m pretty stunned that there was actually momentum enough to take him off the air. I also don’t understand why he left that little dig in his monologue.

I mean, definitely offensive. Intended to offend.

It's his shtick!

Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by asdff »

soared wrote: post #56
nabla9 wrote: post #7

I hope people realize that paying for streaming is optional. vpn is all you need to pay for.

What do you use with your vpn? Every since popcorn time stopped existing, I haven’t been able to find something with good ux

Popcorn time still exists and works. Latest commit was two days ago. Torrent sites still exist too.

Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by MonkeyIsNull »

disney_ta_2025 wrote: post #115
leakycap wrote: post #2

I'm sure it's an accident and not intentional! A big corporation would never, ever do something like cause a delay so people cool off and don't bother actually canceling later.

Big corporations are made of people, some who post here. Disney's internal systems for something like this are a hodgepodge of the Hulu, D+/Bamtech, old corporate disney, and some bits sent out to SaaS. There's been multiple layers of layoffs and service ownership changes since the pandemic. I don't think the org would be able to rate limit by faking crashes if it tried. What is happening is that routes and systems t…

“Never attribute to malice what you can attribute to incompetence”

Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by leakycap »

MonkeyIsNull wrote: post #149
disney_ta_2025 wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Big corporations are made of people, some who post here. Disney's internal systems for something like this are a hodgepodge of the Hulu, D+/Bamtech, old corporate disney, and some bits sent out to SaaS. There's been multiple layers of layoffs and service ownership changes since the pandemic. I don't think the org would be able to rate limit by faking crashes if it tried. What is happening is that routes and systems t…

“Never attribute to malice what you can attribute to incompetence”

This way of thinking has excused a lot of evil/malicious actions. I think it's time we actually start shining our collective flashlights at things, especially big companies, when their own systems break in ways that benefit them.
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