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Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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I kinda want Oracle to go further and insist that no-one can call it "JavaScript" any more. Let's all it "JS" and completely break from Java. "What does JS stand for?" "It stands for itself."

Reminds me of the urban legend that KFC couldn't legally call itself Kentucky Fried Chicken because they were using genetically modified hens that had no heads, hence the name change to just initials.

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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Surprised by the amount of mentions of ECMAScript here. It’s the worst possible name to me.

meh. 'Java' script was a ridiculous choice which has lead to much confusion. For all I care it could be called mozillascript (would be historically more 'correct') otoh anything Oracle wants is bad by default so...

Petition to rename it to SillyScript

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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> If we don’t win discovery, Oracle locks in ownership of the word “JavaScript.” This is the decisive moment. One more reason to move away from it and finally get some sanity back in webdev.

> finally get some sanity back in webdev

Like nested s and 1x1 transparent spacer GIFs?

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

#145
post #75

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And why would anyone do something good for someone else without an ulterior motive? Do you think people donate to charity because they are good or because they want to seem good? I met people IRL who acted "nice" except they were also aware they were being perceived as "nice" and explicitly called themselves "nice," wouldn't you agree this is hypocritical?

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

#146

I don't get the hate here. This is practically a public service and Deno doesn't have any direct or obvious material gains from this. Definitely not more then dozens of other projects (from Chrome to Node.js to Tutorial sites and any company offering something with JS) So what if they are a VC backed company? If you perform a public service, it's fair to ask the public for money. No one is suggesting this money would…

This is a form of marketing.

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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post #78
post #46

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They don't have the right to do this. Oracle safeguards the JavaScript trademark against abuse with it's powerful legal teams and has a track record of good stewardship. These guys want to hijack their property and let it loose to the wild west. Who knows what unethical actors will do with it..

The entire point is that oracle has done nothing with the trademark - especially not being a good steward. What bizarro world are you living in?

> oracle has done nothing with the trademark

In my Bizarro world, that is a good thing. Not doing things includes:

    * Not monetizing 
    * Not advertising
    * No agendas
    * No lawsuits 
    * No enforcement (other than annoying organizations with C&D letters and then retracting them)
I would like it to remain as it is.

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

#148

I don't get the hate here. This is practically a public service and Deno doesn't have any direct or obvious material gains from this. Definitely not more then dozens of other projects (from Chrome to Node.js to Tutorial sites and any company offering something with JS) So what if they are a VC backed company? If you perform a public service, it's fair to ask the public for money. No one is suggesting this money would…

It's PR. First the petition and now this fundraiser. Sorry but it feels more like a stunt than anything sincere otherwise they would front the money. They certainly have the funds for it.

That feels like cutting off your nose to spite your face. You can be in favor insofar as it's a public service and otherwise disregard.

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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It's PR. First the petition and now this fundraiser. Sorry but it feels more like a stunt than anything sincere otherwise they would front the money. They certainly have the funds for it.

That feels like cutting off your nose to spite your face. You can be in favor insofar as it's a public service and otherwise disregard.

Everyone in here jumping to the conclusion that if you say something against the PR shit deno has done. To instantly sucking off Oracle and burning JavaScript flags in the garden. They literally brought it on to themselves and now they want you to pay for it. It's "the last chance" because they made it the last chance. That should be thing discussed in here. A company abusing their reach (60k for the petition) pretending to be guarding the community (millions) while forcing it's hand and also extorting it for money.
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