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Re: Slow social media

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Post by fivestones »

kovezd wrote: post #30
bkettle wrote: post #12

I think modern social media is a huge problem but don’t see we can fix it without regulation. It’s clear that all the current incentives point companies towards engagement and rage bait and away from anything actually “social”, and I think it’s unlikely that any new social network that tries to fix these issues would achieve widespread usage. Have any countries proposed legislation to help reign it in? What would tha…

Yes. We should only allow social media in a printed format.

I think this is a joke but it’s interesting to note that Amish people have essentially this.

https://www.newarkadvocate.com/story/news/2022/09/30/ohios-a...

Re: Slow social media

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Post by estimator7292 »

BeetleB wrote: post #93
3RTB297 wrote: post #47

The author invented and then dashed against the rocks a few existing fediverse platforms in the course of a couple paragraphs. These things already exist and struggle exactly because people comfortable with the walled garden approach forgot what FB was like in 2006 when you only knew 15 people on there. The lack of critical mass of your personal contacts outside of the walls is exactly how FB and IG keep you from ven…

Do any of those networks limit the number of posts you can make a day? Do they limit forwarding? Or give users an option not to be shown forwarded messages? For me, unlimited posts (or rather, minimal friction in posting), and blind forwarding are what destroy social media. If you can make only 3 public/group posts a day, chances are lower they will be crap. I'm on Mastodon. It's only very mildly nice. The reality is…

> I still have to cut off connections because of the guy who's always ranting about some politician/political party.

What a bizarre complaint. Running into people you disagree with is part of the human experience of participating in society.

Mastodon has great self-moderation options. You can mute a person on a timer or permanently, optionally blocking their messages and replies to you and/or their public posts. You can also use any number of word filters to hide posts behind a warning or silently remove them from your timeline.

But really, this is how socialization works. You meet someone, talk to them for a while, eventually decide if you do or don't like them. I don't really get how you can twist this into a critique of social media. It's just how humans are.

Re: Slow social media

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Post by qweiopqweiop »

fnordlord wrote: post #107
qweiopqweiop wrote: post #35

I also dream for this. Personally I would remove likes/reactions though. As we've seen with Instagram it's too easy to chase that dopamine rush/compare number of likes. Comments are enough in my opinion.

Limiting the # of shares in some way would be nice also. If people could only share one thing per day, they'd be more thoughtful of what to spend it on. I actually had a moment just yesterday, imagining/hoping my toddler daughter will grow up and refer to my phone in the same way I did with my parents cigarettes when I was a kid. My mom always claims she had no idea they were dangerous when she started as a teen. I w…

If you haven't, read the anxious generation. We already know. But it's addictive/unhealthy in a different way and all the biggest companies in the world are behind it.

Re: Slow social media

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Post by t1E9mE7JTRjf »

incone123 wrote: post #84
t1E9mE7JTRjf wrote: post #29

use nostr. it can be anything you want it to be.

Anything? Better than Zombo.com ?

It's an open protocol, nobody controls it so nobody gives permission to what you can build. Both in terms of apps/clients that make use of nostr, and also custom primitives to add into nostr. The protocol itself is permissionless.

Re: Slow social media

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Post by carlesfe »

tayo42 wrote: post #31
bkettle wrote: post #12

I think modern social media is a huge problem but don’t see we can fix it without regulation. It’s clear that all the current incentives point companies towards engagement and rage bait and away from anything actually “social”, and I think it’s unlikely that any new social network that tries to fix these issues would achieve widespread usage. Have any countries proposed legislation to help reign it in? What would tha…

I think banning algorithm based feeds is a start Getting rid of any non personal accounts also. So no companies, brands, or meme accounts, and accounts that exist for non personal content only.

Banning them is a bit harsh and unrealistic, as they allow the platform to be monetized.

Here's my random idea: all commercial accounts must be labeled as such, and people should be able to opt-out from seeing any post by such accounts - except ads because, as I said, not allowing a platform to monetize is unrealistic.

Re: Slow social media

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Post by rhubarbtree »

rhetocj23 wrote: post #99
rhubarbtree wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a tricky one, but something that I repeatedly come back to is that publishers are regulated, but social media is a free for all. A newspaper can’t just make up something without consequences (in the UK), for example they may be sued for libel. Social media companies, by contrast, can publish posts from their anonymised users that contain almost anything, and it is permitted. It can be racism. It can state that £…

Newspapers have had a much longer history than social media. I get why youre making the comparison, but, regulatory bodies tend to be averse to acting quick because they want "all the data" to be more certain in decision making. Such data only comes with time.

Fair point, although I think they've had sufficient time now.
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