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It's not approved for those over 45. (AFIAK, simply because so few people in that age group would have risk without having had prior exposure. Basically only those who had divorced or lost their long time partner.)
That feels like a wild assumption to me - we really think people 45+ aren't having casual sex? less casual sex maybe, but I would imagine still a decent amount, statistically.
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Why is there an age limit on an all encompassing vax, wasn't the famous posterchild for this disease Michael Douglas?
> Why is there an age limit on an all encompassing vax Vaccines are subject to stringent safety standards since they’re administered to healthy people. The age limit may suggest that at the time of the recommendation, in the relevant jurisdiction, the manufacturer had not studied its safety and efficacy in >40 year olds. (I also don’t think it’s an age limit as much as the upper end of a recommendation.)
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It's not approved for those over 45. (AFIAK, simply because so few people in that age group would have risk without having had prior exposure. Basically only those who had divorced or lost their long time partner.)
It's not "recommended" but your PCP can prescribe it off-label if you ask -- just ask.
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Why is there an age limit on an all encompassing vax, wasn't the famous posterchild for this disease Michael Douglas?
It's likely that they haven't tested it as thoroughly in older folks and that most older folks have already been exposed to HPV.
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That's because other strains weren't covered by the original vaccines: Strains 16 and 18 were the high risk strains covered in the 2008 roll-out, the roll-out to young girls of the broader vaccine covering other high risk strains didn't start until 2017. “In 2017, one of the first birth cohorts of women in Denmark who were HPV-vaccinated as teenage girls in 2008 reached the screening age of 23 years,” Nonboe explaine…
The other strains were not covered because they were not common. Now they are. Which means some new strain will become common. Is there any data on how quickly/easily new strains show up? I assume it's not as fast as cold/flu, but if it is people will need a vaccine yearly, and that's not realistic.
16/18 were chosen because they are highly carcinogenic and cause the most cancer, they are the two most aggressive high risk types. They cause 70% of all the cancer but are much less than 70% of the cases of high risk strains.
It takes real mental gymnastics to downplay how positive this vaccine is.
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1) If your wife was having a high risk pregnancy and couldn't get vaccinated, she really shouldn't have been working on the front lines during Covid, anyway. 2) Take a look in the mirror and try blaming the people who have made "getting a vaccine" a culture war political statement rather than something routine and uncontroversial. If vaccines were uncontroversial, medical exemptions from them would also be rare and u…
If you're living in the US: please consider getting the vaccine, ragardless of your age. It was covered by my (rather shitty) health insurance. It consists of just 2 (EDIT: 3 for adults!) doses. It is recommended for both Males and Females.
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And even before the antivax nutters here went from fringe to a significant social force, HPV vaccines were already being decried for "promoting casual sex." Our culture is so broken in so many ways.
"Why haven't you cured cancer yet?" "We have a vaccine to prevent some very serious cancers." "But it might turn my daughter into a hussy."
And I can't get the shot in Germany because I'm "too old" and just assumed to be infected with it already, anyway. What a great system.
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Maybe we’re seeing selection pressure against those prone to addictive cycles of social-media influenced misinformation? Like, anti-vaxers died at higher rates in Covid [1]. This will continue across disease outbreaks, particularly ones for which we have near-comprehensive vaccines like measles. And given antivax sensibility is heritable (through parenting, not genes), one would expect this to stabilize the populatio…
very few people are against vaccines per se, they are just against *unsafe* vaccines. "anti-vax" is a term used to dismiss dissident without having to deal with their arguments i.e an ad hominem. As an analogy, if I object to high levels of mercury in fish, am I anti-fish? or anti-poisonous-fish ?
in your fish analogy, you eat mecury directly, but wont eat fish that might have mercury.
the communicable disease is itself quite dangerous