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Re: Ships are sailing with fake insurance from the Norwegian Ro Marine

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Post by groggler » Sat, Sep 13, 2025, 6:33 PM UTC

fakedang wrote: post #137

groggler wrote: post #135

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You seem to be looking for some other outcome. NK with the economy of SK would have been a nuclear threat decades ago and would be stockpiling more nuclear weapons than the US has given their relative GDP allocations.. Would it be nice if sanctions were equivalent to invasion and does that matter to the argument that they are better to implement than do nothing?

North Korea has no dearth of access to nuclear weapons. They get enough raw material from countries other than Canada and the tech they need from China, Pakistan and now Russia. So no, sanctions have not harmed their nuclear programme. But what they've done is worsen the lot for the layman North Korean. North Korea was already a nuclear threat decades ago. Where they were lagging behind was in ICBMs that could reach…

North Korea's nuclear program has been slow and you give financial ability as a way out of it.. Decades ago is still decades late, then there is the dollar short aspect of their program.

I still have no idea what you think is an alternative that would have made a North Korea with South Korea's economy a great thing for arms control.

Keeping North Korea poor has all been waste of time unless our goal was to have 75 years of "wasted time" before a potentially uncontrollable escalation with China.

Re: Ships are sailing with fake insurance from the Norwegian Ro Marine

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Post by Sabinus » Sat, Sep 13, 2025, 9:39 PM UTC

Kbelicius wrote: post #96

jltsiren wrote: post #87

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There were essentially no sanctions impacting Russian energy exports to Europe. Those would have hurt Europe much more than Russia. If you can't export something, the damage is proportional to the volume of the exports. But if you don't have enough energy, your entire economy suffers. The increases in energy prices mostly came from voluntary attempts to find alternatives to Russian energy and from Russia constraining…

Why would Russia voluntarily give up money by constraining the supply during the war? That makes absolutely no sense.

Coersion. A comparatively small amount of revenue being given up could scare Europe away from supplying Ukraine with materiel. The Russians put out ads about how Europe would be freezing through winter.

Re: Ships are sailing with fake insurance from the Norwegian Ro Marine

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Post by psunavy03 » Mon, Sep 15, 2025, 4:57 PM UTC

Twistyfiasco wrote: post #138

bluefirebrand wrote: post #52

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If the culture was "if a methhead tries to stab you, you can and should use any force necessary to stop them" that might be different But no, the culture in Canada is "Check your privilege and let the poor methhead stab you" No joke, people in Canada genuinely do not think they can or should use force to protect themselves from dangerous threats

With all due respect you are quite incorrect. Most people think and do use for to protect themselves from threats like all humans. The issue was bringing the US style castle doctrine defence argument where some folks feel that since the intruder is trespassing they have carte blanche to murder them.

This is a complete mischaracterization of the Castle Doctrine. It simply means you have no duty to retreat when attacked in your own home. Using disproportionate force is still some flavor of illegal homicide.

Re: Ships are sailing with fake insurance from the Norwegian Ro Marine

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Post by mandevil » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 9:37 PM UTC

luckylion wrote: post #98

mandevil wrote: post #66

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25 years ago, IR scholar Dan Drezner wrote the book _The Sanctions Paradox_ which tried to explain, in an IR theory sort of way, why sanctions are used so often and achieve so little- they don't overthrow governments, they rarely even manage to make governments stop doing the things we don't like. He recently revisited that in FP magazine ( https://foreignpolicy.com/2025/09/10/sanctions-paradox-russi... ) arguing for…

> We've managed to go 80-odd years with a reasonable global norm against redrawing borders, and it is worth a lot to demonstrate that we- the global community- do not acquiesce The previous Russian imperial project, the Soviet Union, ended 35 years ago, not 80. It's easy to overlook that they forcibly redrew borders and kept them redrawn for decades (and still to this day do keep some territories they conquered in im…

The USSR split up into 15 smaller states 35 years ago. But those 15 smaller states combined are exactly the same territory as the former USSR- none of her (many, many) neighbors took the opportunity to reach in and fiddle with borders, to redraw this or that boundary that they had wanted, to try and take back parts of their former country that Stalin had stolen back in 1945.

No one is saying that states will never collapse, will never split up, will never secede. But the fact that no existing state tried to take advantage of the confusion in the USSR and gain revenge for an ancient wrong? That was the result of this global norm, which held up even as the USSR (and Yugoslavia) fell apart. And that is a very good thing.