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Re: Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah

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I have become something of a statist over the years and I apparently annoy a whole lot of people, when I argue for not upsetting the status quo much further. Needless to say, this obviously is not a good thing if you share that perspective with me. This is actual political violence. And it has little to do with guns. If someone really wanted to get to the guy, one would. The issue is further societal deterioration in…

Believe it or not 4 out of the last 30 Presidents were assassinated, an additional 3 were shot, and a few more were shot at or otherwise survived attempts. There's a long history of political violence in the US (and the world). We've been in a bit of a lull of late but what we're experiencing today is not all that abnormal.

Re: Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah

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> For people who seem to think this is what Kirk deserved because he said things from different view points, you need to reclaim yoursel

Kirk both personally and as part of his group advocated for using violence to achieve goals.

This doesn't make him particularly unique, but lets stop with this idea that speech exists in some kind of abstract realm with no bearing on "reality".

There was a guy in vietnam about 70 years ago who made a lot of speeches about what he wanted to achieve and then a few million people died.

It turns out words matter.

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