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Microsoft is officially sending employees back to the office

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Re: Microsoft is officially sending employees back to the office

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AKA - Microsoft is trying to layoff employees without getting more bad layoff press while they make record earnings. A company where most employees work digitally with people across the world is requiring people to sit at a desk in a physical location. The irony is blinding & shows an utter lack of transparency by leadership.

I certainly saw engagement, collaboration, etc. going down once things switched heavily to video calls (even before COVID) rather than meeting in-person in various ways--especially among people you didn't already know. Of course, in many situations, it's unavoidable. I'm probably not going to hop on an international trip at the drop of a hat--though I certainly attended events. But there's some subset of people that…

I’ve had the opposite effect. Meetings where everyone is on video run so much better.

More on task, plus transcriptions & other features dramatically improve the meeting. I can more easily understand accents, read when people talk over each other, ai generated notes and tasks, and I can rewatch parts of the meeting by searching for something said. Also easy to detect who dominates the meeting and who might need to be included in talking more.

Re: Microsoft is officially sending employees back to the office

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> 3. Having in person chit-chat - working Having done years in both settings, random non-work related discussions were always more prevalent in office type atmospheres. Only semi-related but in office at a cubicle is the least productive environment I've ever seen for companies. I cannot personally take a leadership team serious if they care about productivity & fiscal responsibility when they have cubicle farms of m…

How common are cubicles now? I haven't seen one in nearly 20 years. And I find open-office environments kind of discourage non-work chat because you know you're disturbing others for no good reason.

Apologies. I think of cubicles the same as open office and they’re not. There is kind of a spectrum between these ideas.

In my above statement I was thinking of both cubicles and open office.

Re: Microsoft is officially sending employees back to the office

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It just makes me sick growing up in the USA, hearing about the beauty of “competition”, and then growing up to see that not only does it not exist… they cannot even be bothered to pretend.

> It just makes me sick growing up in the USA, As always when feeling terrible check out other places to if and where better things exist.

I mean, doesn't that just make you feel worse?

Re: Microsoft is officially sending employees back to the office

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To non-lawyer me, this sounds like something for which lawyers have a term: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructive_dismissal If I've heard of this angle, I assume that lawyers know many angles that may apply.

And? As long as it isn’t discriminatory, since 49 of the 50 states are at will employment, you can be let go at anytime for any reason or no reason. It might come into play with unemployment insurance but the weekly amount is so low it’s laughable.

For better or worse, neither of us is a lawyer, but I'm comfortable in saying that the affected people should:

Talk. To. A. Lawyer.

Isn't that better than us random Internet people telling them -- although we think something shitty is going on -- they definitely don't have a case, and they definitely shouldn't talk to a lawyer? (For all we know, an actual lawyer might tell them that they actually do have a case.)

Re: Microsoft is officially sending employees back to the office

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post #126

Turns out even Microsoft can't get Teams to work.

This kind of commentary is more appropriate for Reddit but in this case I approve.

Also -- why is Teams such trash? It can barely fulfill its core responsibility.

Re: Microsoft is officially sending employees back to the office

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50 miles is a lot. That can easily be 2h in most big cities. To do what exactly? Sit in an open office in Redmond, jump on Teams to call with someone in Fort Lauderdale? Funny thing, I had multiple interviews with them on explicit remote roles (which are different from roles that went remote during COVID). I wonder if the policy changes there.

I live about 100 miles from NYC, which is 2-2.5 hours by car but only 1.5 hours by train. I think that that would be considered an acceptable commute time for companies with a hybrid work plan. However, every time I ask recruiters from NYC-based companies if their commute subsidy would cover the train, I get told employees have to live within a 50 mile radius of the office. Like you said, that could be 2 hours by car! For the right salary and benefits, I'd happily spend 3 hours a day on a train. At least I wouldn't be driving.

Re: Microsoft is officially sending employees back to the office

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Maybe they don’t even want to rely on Microsoft Teams internally anymore…

MS Teams for video teleconferencing...good. On a Windows PC, and using MS365, by far the easiest to set up (or change) a meeting and fewest issues with cameras across multiple devices. (Webex and Zoom are close seconds, Google Meet is a distant last due to constant camera issues.)

MS Teams for IM...okay. Too much white space and too hard to find conversations that I know I've had recently. Very much prefer Slack.

MS Teams for any of that other stuff...rage inducing. Especially the file sharing and other "team" features which break with every minor update. Somehow, even worse than using Sharepoint directly. Went back to email and using network drives to share/store team documents.

Re: Microsoft is officially sending employees back to the office

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This kind of commentary is more appropriate for Reddit but in this case I approve.

Also -- why is Teams such trash? It can barely fulfill its core responsibility.

Has Microsoft built anything in the last decade that isn’t of questionable quality/user experience?
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