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Re: I'm absolutely right

#141
I've started saying this to people I don't agree with, for the enhanced collaborative capabilities, learning from the LLMs.

It feels like a greater form of intelligence, IQ without EQ isn't intelligence.

Re: I'm absolutely right

#143
This phrase is a clear indicator LLM is being used in a wrong way. I have a really poor experience with LLMs correcting after being incorrect.

Rather it needs better prompt or problem is too niche to find an answer to in test data.

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#145

OK, so I love this, because we all recognize it. It's not fully just a tic of language, though. Responses that start off with "You're right!" are alignment mechanisms. The LLM, with its single-token prediction approach, follows up with a suggestion that much more closely follows the user's desires, instead of latching onto it's own previous approach. The other tic I love is "Actually, that's not right." That happens…

> The LLM, with its single-token prediction approach, follows up with a suggestion that much more closely follows the user's desires, instead of latching onto it's own previous approach.

Maybe? How would we test that one way or the other? If there’s one thing I’ve learned in the last few years, it’s that reasoning from “well LLMs are based on next-token prediction, therefore ” is a trap. The relationship between the architecture and the emergent properties of the LLM is very complex. Case in point: I think two years ago most of us would have said LLMs would never be able to do what they are able to do now (actually effective coding agents) precisely because they were trained on next token prediction. That turned out to be false, and so I don’t tend to make arguments like that anymore.

> The people behind the agents are fighting with the LLM just as much as we are

On that, we agree. No doubt anthropic has tried to fine-tune some of this stuff out, but perhaps it’s deeply linked in the network weights to other (beneficial) emergent behaviors in ways that are organically messy and can’t be easily untangled without making the model worse.

Re: I'm absolutely right

#146
Claude Code has been downright bad the last couple of weeks. It seems like a considerable amount of users are moving to Codex, at least judging by reddit posts.

Re: I'm absolutely right

#147
post #123

Noob here. Why hasn't Anthropic fixed this?

Probably because it's intentional. There are many theories why, but one might be that by saying "You're absolutely right," they are priming the LLM to agree with you and be more likely to continue with your solution than to try something else that might not be what you want.

Re: I'm absolutely right

#150
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just wish they could hide these steering tokens in the thinking blurb or some such. Ie mostly hidden from the user. Having it reply to the user that way is quite annoying heh.

This can still happen even with thinking models as long as the model outputs tokens in a sequence. Only way to fix would be to allow it to restart its response or switch to diffusion.

It's an artifact of post-training approach. Models like kimi k2 and gpt-oss do not utter such phrases and are quite happy to start sentences with "No" or something to the tune of "Wrong".

Diffusion also won't help the way you seem to think it will (that the outputs occur in a sequence is not relevant, what's relevant is the underlying computation class backing each token output, and there, diffusion as typically done does not improve on things. The argument is subtle but the key is that output dimension and iterations in diffusion do not scale arbitrarily large as a result of problem complexity).

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