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Kazeta: An operating system that brings the console gaming experience of 90s

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Re: Kazeta: An operating system that brings the console gaming experience of 90s

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Post by jeroenhd »

reactordev wrote: post #8
morsch wrote: post #3

Neat. Couldn't find a video of it booting up. But here's some background info: https://github.com/kazetaos/kazeta/wiki/Technical-Details

>When accessing the terminal/tty, the default username and password is gamer. Because /etc is read-only, this password cannot be changed. Oh noes! A little further down they say you can get it online using an Ethernet cable and a command. Let’s just hope its never able to be an ssh host. These kind of things scare me from a security standpoint. I feel like the users and /etc/passed should probably be writable so peop…

The SSH config seems to enable SSH but disable password authentication. I'm not sure what authentication that leaves open (I'm guessing ~/.ssh/authorized_keys) but gamer:gamer won't get you in over the ethernet by default at least.

Re: Kazeta: An operating system that brings the console gaming experience of 90s

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Post by roughly »

wk_end wrote: post #138
JohnKemeny wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is Dropbox still in use, though?

Not as little as you'd think, not as widely as it once was. But the reasons for that have little to do with the "but why?"s thrown at it when it was first promoted.

The “why” is effectively that they got Sherlocked by every platform owner out there - Dropbox’s declining usage isn’t an indication they were wrong.

Re: Kazeta: An operating system that brings the console gaming experience of 90s

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Post by Eduard »

dan353hehe wrote: post #116
cornstalks wrote: post #101

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The page does say it, though it might be easy to overlook if you don't understand the significance of the statements: > Zero setup > Direct to gameplay > Distraction-free gaming > Use SD cards or other external media as carts The 90s gaming console experience was: 1. Grab your game cartridge. 2. Insert cartridge into console. 3. Turn on console. 4. Play the game. There are no steps between 3 and 4. The console booted…

I got a patch: @@ -12,6 +12,8 @@ The 90s gaming console experience was: 1. Grab your game cartridge. +1.5. Blow into the cartridge slot for some reason to make the game boot on the first try. But in reality you are slowly destroying the contacts and making the problem worse. + 2. Insert cartridge into console. 3. Turn on console. Fixed it. Honestly though, the experience of just turning it on and being in game was gr…

one more patch/pull request:

1. buy your second game (130 DEM in 1995 / 109 EUR inflation-adjusted for 2025 / all the money you saved for weeks age-adjusted) for your new Sega Saturn.

2. notice it doesn't load on your console

3. be told that you have to send everything in to have it repaired (in retrospect find out that Saturns often had faulty CD drives)

4. wait three weeks (an eternity age-adjusted for a 12 year-old) until you get your console returned

5. finally play

Re: Kazeta: An operating system that brings the console gaming experience of 90s

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Post by DSMan195276 »

TickleSteve wrote: post #36
flumpcakes wrote: post #12

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It seems like an operating system to me. What specifically is misused?

The technical definition of opoerating system is the software that manages the resources of the computer, i.e. RAM, storage, processor time, etc (Typically known as the Kernel). This usage is more "User Interface" or "shell".

"Operating system" has no real technical definition, it's a term that doesn't cleanly map to all the stuff we call "operating systems" today. Even the "technical" definition you gave is murky, that definition does not care _where_ the software is running. It easily encompass software running outside of the Linux kernel, much of it is expected to be there for the system to function properly and support various kinds of programs.

This thing is distributed as an installable OS image and has pretty specialized software for make it manage your programs and data in a pretty specific way, IMO that's good enough to call it an operating system.

Re: Kazeta: An operating system that brings the console gaming experience of 90s

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Post by grugagag »

gravitronic wrote: post #83
grugagag wrote: post #82

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Still feels like a waste to put 4mb game on it

Don't worry, it's actually a 4MB SD card with a fake sticker

Im sure there are such rippoffs, I’ve heard of them but they were still way bigger than a game cart. I like the idea of physical cartriges/media for games, let’s see how this catches on.

Re: Kazeta: An operating system that brings the console gaming experience of 90s

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Post by reactordev »

ranger_danger wrote: post #134
reactordev wrote: post #9

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My children have only known micro transaction riddled games. When I show them old school games, they scoffed at the graphics and returned to their phones.

Why would one allow their children to grow up with dangerous addictive slop knowing full-well that it's bad and what the better alternatives are?

We didn’t, we locked down those phones and only allowed them to play certain approved games. No transactions were ever had. We would give them gift cards for some for Christmas or birthdays but they did not have access to payment methods on their phones.

Re: Kazeta: An operating system that brings the console gaming experience of 90s

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Post by reactordev »

jeroenhd wrote: post #141
reactordev wrote: post #8

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>When accessing the terminal/tty, the default username and password is gamer. Because /etc is read-only, this password cannot be changed. Oh noes! A little further down they say you can get it online using an Ethernet cable and a command. Let’s just hope its never able to be an ssh host. These kind of things scare me from a security standpoint. I feel like the users and /etc/passed should probably be writable so peop…

The SSH config seems to enable SSH but disable password authentication. I'm not sure what authentication that leaves open (I'm guessing ~/.ssh/authorized_keys) but gamer:gamer won't get you in over the ethernet by default at least.

It probably doesn’t belong to the group. Disabling password logins is good. That means ONLY authorized key auth is enabled or ldap/ad/domain. I should check out the sshd.conf before I talk out of my ass about what it should do…

It’s just one of those spidey-senses that goes off when there’s a default user, a read-only filesystem, and internet enabled *nix

Re: Kazeta: An operating system that brings the console gaming experience of 90s

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Post by tonyhart7 »

ZenoArrow wrote: post #130
tonyhart7 wrote: post #117

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It's not nostalgia for a game, it's wanting to get back to plug-and-play gaming experiences. With consoles in the 70s/80s/90s, when you put a game into the console and turned it on, you launched directly into the game. That immediacy is lost when you end up with endless software updates and having to launch games from a menu. If you didn't live through that time I can understand why you aren't nostalgic for it.

Yes its called modernization

are you ignoring the fact that physical games sales literally in spiral downward trend for decades???

people not buy it anymore, that's why company didnt produce that any of that

You may argue that company has a hand with it but its just down to culture, japan still buying an cd/blueray for physical music and games etc

their industry still thriving despite so called "old tech", people choose to do that

Re: Kazeta: An operating system that brings the console gaming experience of 90s

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Post by marbartolome »

ndriscoll wrote: post #84
ofrzeta wrote: post #65

I am currently working on something like this for audio, basically just like a MP3 player with full size SD cards that plays automatically when you insert them (for kids). It's actually quite hard to find full size SD cards these days and when you do they are comparatively expensive (opposed to current micro SD cards). Also I wanted to have low capacity like 128MB, so the concept "one album, one card" (as in the OP -…

It's probabably more sensible to have a drive for your full music collection and then use an NFC reader + cards to trigger an album. I see you can get 100 NFC cards for $22 on amazon right now. I saw some German blogs about doing this a few years back.

I did something like this a while ago. What I did is upon reading the NFC tag with a raspberry pi, I'd call the spotify API to play an album in my google home.

Here's the repo: https://github.com/coconauts/minilos

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