I dunno, this sounds like a good thing to me.
No clicks, no content: The unsustainable future of AI search
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Re: No clicks, no content: The unsustainable future of AI search
#142Re: No clicks, no content: The unsustainable future of AI search
#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
AI will kill the volunteers run websites and blogs faster then it will kill corporate ones. It will kill free information first. It will basically finish the process google search engine started when it started to require seo to find stuff. People will have less or no motivation to create them, because well, why would they? It will be just a food for AI of some corporation. And more importantly, people won't be findi…
I have no intention to stop writing on my blog for AI reasons and I don't even see why I should. I suspect a majority of people who post here are the same.
Same. And my logs say that AI crawls my pages roughly 1.2 bazillion times per day.
Re: No clicks, no content: The unsustainable future of AI search
#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
Of course. Were in the burning VCs cash by the truckload phase. And inference isn't getting cheaper. I'd argue this is the worst its ever been in terms of over extending a business and they might not be able to enshitificate fast enough.
Inference will get much much cheaper. We're paying $30000 for a top of the line gpu right now, but that's only because everyone insists on buying nvidia, so nvidia has full incentive to charge the absolute maximum. Long term that vendor lock in will go away and prices will go down to something reasonable. Long ago CPUs were super expensive too, now they're so cheap we put them in toothbrushes
> Long ago CPUs were super expensive too, now they're so cheap we put them in toothbrushes
Long ago GPUs were already affordable. We used to buy them to play _games_!
Re: No clicks, no content: The unsustainable future of AI search
#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
Another commonly ignored group are those that publish information because they want others to know about that information. Even in a worst-case situation where websites are only crawled by bots and get no human visitors at all anymore, government and company websites won't disappear. Any tourist board worth their salt will increase the amount of content they publish compared to current levels. The local conspiracy nu…
> And that's assuming a world where people only ask LLMs and don't care about the provenance or trustworthiness of information at all. Which seems unlikely, even conspiracy nuts have some sources they trust more than others. They will just have one model that they trust more because (a) it aligns with their views, or (b) it's a sycophant and agrees with anything and everything. They definitely are not the people most…
Option (C) users railroaded into using a given model by a company or government with the power to make it a default or requirement.
Re: No clicks, no content: The unsustainable future of AI search
#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
Inference will get much much cheaper. We're paying $30000 for a top of the line gpu right now, but that's only because everyone insists on buying nvidia, so nvidia has full incentive to charge the absolute maximum. Long term that vendor lock in will go away and prices will go down to something reasonable. Long ago CPUs were super expensive too, now they're so cheap we put them in toothbrushes
> Long ago CPUs were super expensive too, now they're so cheap we put them in toothbrushes Long ago GPUs were already affordable. We used to buy them to play _games_!
A Voodoo2 12MB was only $600 in today's money!
Re: No clicks, no content: The unsustainable future of AI search
#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
People create content for free but not to be sucked into some machine that funds a $T company who mixes it up and spits it out without attribution. You want to share info for the sake of it but you also care deeply about how it’s presented and would like people to come read it on your site. So all that volunteer stuff will be killed along with all the recipe sites because those people aren’t going to put in the time…
> In the short term it will feel liberating They won't feel so liberated when they find ads embedded in the model's response in ways that make it difficult to uBlock.
Incoming uAIBlock. uBlockAi? The taglines write themselves.
Re: No clicks, no content: The unsustainable future of AI search
#148The argument seems flawed to me: by "killing the web", they refer to the example of a company adding SEO'd information to their website to lure in traffic from web searches. However, me personally, I don't want to be lured into some web store when I'm looking for some vaguely related information. Luckily, there's tons of information on the web provided not by commercial entities but by volunteers: wikipedia, forum us…
But AI is also going to kill some of your positive examples. Stack Overflow for example is in a steep decline, only a small fraction of questions are posted today compared to the peak. And the effects are more than financial, so even non-profit examples like forums would be hit. If new people don't discover your site with useful user-created content, they won't contribute to it. You're also cutting off the pipeline f…
> Stack Overflow for example is in a steep decline, only a small fraction of questions are posted today compared to the peak.
...which might be beneficial. A problem they'd been trying to deal with for over a decade was the massive influx of low quality duplicate and "do my homework for me" questions from people who don't even bother looking for a solution. If they've all moved off to AI things, problem solved and maybe SO can return to its high-quality origins?
Re: No clicks, no content: The unsustainable future of AI search
#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
But AI is also going to kill some of your positive examples. Stack Overflow for example is in a steep decline, only a small fraction of questions are posted today compared to the peak. And the effects are more than financial, so even non-profit examples like forums would be hit. If new people don't discover your site with useful user-created content, they won't contribute to it. You're also cutting off the pipeline f…
> Stack Overflow for example is in a steep decline, only a small fraction of questions are posted today compared to the peak. ...which might be beneficial. A problem they'd been trying to deal with for over a decade was the massive influx of low quality duplicate and "do my homework for me" questions from people who don't even bother looking for a solution. If they've all moved off to AI things, problem solved and ma…
They too busy editing questions to fit their answers.
Re: No clicks, no content: The unsustainable future of AI search
#150let me tell you briefly how search works in my main's niche of kpop, where i had about 3m monthly sessions last month for august on my platform (kpopping.com)
for 20 years, websites that released idol nudes dominated (https://www.change.org/p/allkpop-com-shut-down-allkpop )
then the first wave of slop that figured out you can buy links (https://x.com/paulkimio/status/1550532282288508929)
and now for the past three and a half years it's been indian news websites that dominate
good riddance to the search-powered internet and seoers, i don't mind bleeding-- i've been bleeding this whole time :)