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How did .agakhan, .ismaili and .imamat get their own TLDs?

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Re: How did .agakhan, .ismaili and .imamat get their own TLDs?

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post #113

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However, "imamat" by itself is a generic term, so it's not clear why it should be controlled by a single organization that happens to have it in the name.

Aren't there tons of generic terms gTLD controlled by a single organizations now?

I've just learned here that .man is owned/controlled by the MAN group

edit: source: https://icannwiki.org/.man

also: walmart applied for .george https://icannwiki.org/.george

Re: How did .agakhan, .ismaili and .imamat get their own TLDs?

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The weird thing is, are they even meaningfully used? I don't think I've ever seen a .google URL in the wild, neither for their websites nor for API endpoints.

Well, there is https://www.registry.google/

And MS is increasingly dropping the .com: https://cloud.microsoft/

Re: How did .agakhan, .ismaili and .imamat get their own TLDs?

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post #76

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What happens when a company goes under and the yearly fee can no longer be paid? Has a gTLD ever been resigned?

From the ICANN site, 154 gTLD agreements have been terminated. I'm not sure how many due to non-payment, but https://domainincite.com/30105-icann-to-terminate-five-new-g... indicates that at least some have been due to non-payment. https://www.icann.org/en/registry-agreements?sort-column=top...

".active" is no longer active...

Re: How did .agakhan, .ismaili and .imamat get their own TLDs?

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post #59

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George is the clothing brand of the ASDA supermarket chain in the UK, which Walmart used to own. I'm not sure if it's a brand they use worldwide though; I don't really go to Walmart when in the US. Either way, that's why they own it, presumably.

At least as far back as the the 90s Walmart was selling George clothing in the US too. IDK what predates what, though. Or if they are currently. There was also a George magazine, which... I think belonged to RFK (Senior)?

Correction: JFK Junior, of course!

Re: How did .agakhan, .ismaili and .imamat get their own TLDs?

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Is it tricky? If you have a trademark, you can have a gTLD - simple as that. Because the problem is how can apple have a trademark on the word “apple”? For me, the same rules should be enforced for trademarks because an apple orchard might also like to have a trademark but that’s difficult because “apple” is already a trademark. Edit: as pointed out in the comments, this position doesn't take into account that tradem…

You seem to be missing that trademarks are generally context specific E.g. Apple has a trademark in the context of technology but not in the context of farming Whereas gTLDs are flat namespace

Ok, good point. I assumed global trademarks but yes trademarks are nation based.

Should then only multi-national organisations be allowed to obtain gTLDs?

Obviously the ICANN price tag of USD227k is also a good entry barrier.

Re: How did .agakhan, .ismaili and .imamat get their own TLDs?

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I am wondering if the Albanian government’s plan to give independence to the Tirana HQ of the Bektashi Sufi Order is ever actually going to happen. If it does, then they’ll be the world’s second country dedicated to a religion… well, currently Iran is a Twelver Shi’a theocracy, but Iran had a long history before it was theocracy, and maybe one day won’t be one anymore; Vatican City and the proposed “Bektashi Muslim V…

Tibet was a theocracy with a religious leader for a while until recent times. Also I think the Albanian plan is more on the lines of Mount Athos: it is technically an in independent administration with independent (monastic) government but still part of the Greek state https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monastic_community_of_Mount_...

> Tibet was a theocracy with a religious leader for a while until recent times.

Yes, but it was still like contemporary Iran - a country which happened to have a theocratic system of government, not a country whose sole raison d'être was to endow a religious group with the trappings of statehood.

> Also I think the Albanian plan is more on the lines of Mount Athos: it is technically an in independent administration with independent (monastic) government but still part of the Greek state

I don’t believe that is true - if you read Albanian PM Edi Rama’s statements on the topic, he always cites the Vatican as his inspiration, not Mount Athos - which makes sense given Rama himself is Catholic, not Orthodox. He isn’t proposing this idea out of any personal belief in Bektashi Islam… a cynic would say he is doing it because it is good PR both for his country and for him personally… he’d surely give more high-minded explanation, in terms of the Albanian state giving a magnanimous gift to the cause of interfaith tolerance and religious moderation… but definitely the model is the Vatican not Mount Athos

Re: How did .agakhan, .ismaili and .imamat get their own TLDs?

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there was a fight between Apple, the computer company and Apple, the record company (initially owned by The Beatles). They initially resolved it by The Beatles allowing the other to one to keep its name on the condition they would refrain from entering the music business. We all know how that turned out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Records

How did it turn out? Seems like both still have their trademark and everyone lived happily ever after

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Corps_v_Apple_Computer

Re: How did .agakhan, .ismaili and .imamat get their own TLDs?

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The Vatican is a country, so it gets a ccTLD.

I don't understand why the Vatican is considered a country, besides as a quirk of history. It is smaller than high school campus nearest my house, is not a UN member, and seems to exist solely as a tax haven. It also has no native citizens. No person has been born in Vatican City in a century and even if you pop out a baby in Vatican City and are you yourself a Vatican City resident and citizen, the baby is not a cit…

> I don't understand why the Vatican is considered a country, besides as a quirk of history.

It is considered an independent state because some time after the Papal States (a much larger set of holdings that were ruled by the Pope) were annexed by Italy, the Vatican was subsequently granted independence (recognized in a treaty between the Holy See and Italy). Which is pretty typical of why independent states are considered independent states.

Re: How did .agakhan, .ismaili and .imamat get their own TLDs?

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there was a fight between Apple, the computer company and Apple, the record company (initially owned by The Beatles). They initially resolved it by The Beatles allowing the other to one to keep its name on the condition they would refrain from entering the music business. We all know how that turned out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Records

How did it turn out? Seems like both still have their trademark and everyone lived happily ever after

The Beatles got richer, and then got a whole lot richer.

Re: How did .agakhan, .ismaili and .imamat get their own TLDs?

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Those tlds still exist. The existence of butts.adult doesn’t create confusion about oxfam.org

You misled me, butts.adult does in fact not exist.

Oh wow. That seems like an oversight. Somebody with $400 to burn could either support or refute my point on this matter
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