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SpaceX's giant Starship Mars rocket nails critical 10th test flight

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Re: SpaceX's giant Starship Mars rocket nails critical 10th test flight

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[Even worse than someone ranting like this is someone who then on top also self-replies!]

"But explosions aren't THAT bad"!!

Yeah, it just means that up until now, the chance of any astronaut crew surviving any trip anywhere is 0%. But hey, if some of the next tests don't end in an explosion, this maybe can be improved to 50/50 chance of death. Yeah, astronauts will buy that. After all, people also still buy Telsa's "Full Self Killing".

Darwin, please come to the rescue.

Re: SpaceX's giant Starship Mars rocket nails critical 10th test flight

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Given the results of test 10 (successful splash down of Starship), any ideas what test 11 will entail? Could we be looking at a chopstick catch of the Starship itself?

They only have one more shipv2 right now. The next ones are shipv3. So my guess is that a ship catch doesn't make sense, since they're changing the architecture on the next ones. Would make sense to continue with limit finding (it's a disposable launch anyway, old gear) on things that carry over (i.e. thermal protection, ablative materials, crazy angles, etc) One interesting point is if they actually go for orbit. It…

Like you said, flight 11 has the last V2 and since V3 is not compatible with the existing pad A (only the new pad B that is being finished atm), it would be a nice opportunity to try the ship catch because cratering the old pad A and/or its tower wouldn't be that much of a deal. The entire Pad A has to be replaced anyways.

Re: SpaceX's giant Starship Mars rocket nails critical 10th test flight

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At a cost of indiscriminately imprisoning and killing people (remember Korolyov and von Braun)? Surely. he-he. If Musk does achieve a second foothold for the humanity, then any and all objections to his methods become irrelevant. So far he does deliver. So we wait for the final result. Also, if you don't know, we've got a war in europe for like 3.5 years already. I'm seriously curious how many times a space-x total p…

Setting aside the founder or company itself, philosophically and ethically the “ends justify any means” concept is deeply flawed.

Especially when the ends are even less likely to work then Marxism Leninism

Re: SpaceX's giant Starship Mars rocket nails critical 10th test flight

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I'd say the payload door situation is a considerable success, at least as big as the relight itself.

I saw one of the dummy satellites bump into the edge of the door on the way out.

They were testing different catapult configurations. Seems clear that one is a no-go but others looked good.

Re: SpaceX's giant Starship Mars rocket nails critical 10th test flight

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They even removed some near fuel tanks. In the past the missing tiles were in less critical areas. I'm surprised they didn't take less risks just to avoid a narrative of failure.

> I'm surprised they didn't take less risks just to avoid a narrative of failure. That's the advantage of being privately owned. "Vibes" (hah) don't matter. Public opinion doesn't matter. What matters is executing on your vision / goals. And they're doing that. The fact that they're bringing in loads of cash from Starlink surely helps. They haven't had the need to raise money in a while, now.

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Re: SpaceX's giant Starship Mars rocket nails critical 10th test flight

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Incredible achievement, but what is more incredible is how many people (including almost all of my friends circle) have started rooting for SpaceX to fail due to the shenanigans of its founder. I think as a culture we've lost the ability to compartmentalize. We should be able to criticize and even despise the head of a company, and at the same time celebrate when the intelligence and hard work of the countless smart…

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Re: SpaceX's giant Starship Mars rocket nails critical 10th test flight

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It was a significant progress, but I won't call it "nailed it". As there was an damage or explosion on re-entry where the skirt of the starship got damaged. And we could see pretty significant damage on one of the fins. Nailing it would be without the things above.

SpaceX has two big things going for it: Starship/Raptor factories churning them out cheap, and themselves as a paying customer in Starlink who can dogfood a risky new launch platform.

Now that they're demoed pez-dispensing v3 dummy Starlinks, I'd assume they'll start launching real ones within ~1-3 months. At that point as long as they can deliver payload to orbit and catch the booster the program is operational and they'll start switching their own Falcon 9 launches over.

The HLS timeline is definitely dicey, but whether Starship winds up being the blocker remains to be seen. Otherwise they've now succeeded enough to "lean launch" Starship with equal/better capabilities to any other existing orbital rocket, and Starlink can fund indefinite further tests/iterations on the rest of their roadmap features (which no one else has).

Re: SpaceX's giant Starship Mars rocket nails critical 10th test flight

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And maybe more interesting. How much did it cost them to get this far vs the sls?

You can't really compare them because SLS was a jobs program intended to spread out contracts across many states by reusing suppliers from shuttle programs. Cheap? No. Wasteful? also no. Most of that money went back into those economies.

Re: SpaceX's giant Starship Mars rocket nails critical 10th test flight

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That is a super bad take and we will probably both get flagged and rightly so (in fact I will even flag myself to get this off HN faster if it’s not deemed helpful) but your attempted slur deserves a response. The parties opposed to child rape and unreasonable levels of immigration in Europe get called far right because they do scoop up a few far right supporters. But that’s unfair given the alternatives. HN really i…

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Re: SpaceX's giant Starship Mars rocket nails critical 10th test flight

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Incredible achievement, but what is more incredible is how many people (including almost all of my friends circle) have started rooting for SpaceX to fail due to the shenanigans of its founder. I think as a culture we've lost the ability to compartmentalize. We should be able to criticize and even despise the head of a company, and at the same time celebrate when the intelligence and hard work of the countless smart…

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