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Re: Starship's Tenth Flight Test

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Post by stinkbeetle »

bamboozled wrote: post #103
itishappy wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> fascists on the moon and private space industry? Yay Give me the Apollo era anytime. The Apollo program was built in no small part by Nazis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip

Were the outputs of the project privately owned by them after receiving massive levels of tax payer funding?

Before going further down this route, I think we should first establish what makes you the decider of the exact circumstances in which it is okay to collaborate with nazis, fund them, and install them into high positions in the government bureaucracy.

Re: Starship's Tenth Flight Test

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Post by rsyring »

Anyone know the best way to get the SpaceX video from Twitter/X onto Apple TV?

My current method is to screen share from an iPad after starting the video on Safari. Trying to Airplay gave me audio but not video on the TV. But, the screen share has a pretty large letterbox around it, was hoping to get full screen video.

Re: Starship's Tenth Flight Test

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Post by chrisbrandow »

dotnet00 wrote: post #116
themafia wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> every flight needed to have a perfect heat shield. Which is a little easier to do when your craft is shaped like a plane and not a simple cylinder. The loading and positioning were easier to model and then achieve in flight. The shuttle also flew with repair kits and glue that could be used in a vacuum. The astronauts could perform an EVA and work to replace damaged tiles and there were published plans on how to do…

I thought that while the spare tiles did exist, there was never an actual safe procedure for replacing tiles (that didn't require being docked to the ISS) they were only carried to be available when the choice was between losing the entire crew on reentry or risking a crew member? I don't quite understand how the airplane shape made it easier to model the loading and positioning? (Not saying you're wrong, just doesn'…

Having seen the shuttle in person in LA museum, I was struck by how much it looked like a plane sitting on a flat heat shield surface

Re: Starship's Tenth Flight Test

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Post by whatbutwhy »

dvt wrote: post #31
erulabs wrote: post #5

Unbelievable! Watched with my 4 year old, he was full of questions about why the ocean was turning to nighttime, what satellites are, about going to another planet, about the earth being so blue and if we “ever even knew that before”. Just wonderful stuff. So excited for the future.

So awesome, I hope to have kids one day precisely for this reason! One of my fondest memories is my dad quenching my curiosity (with a drawing, to boot!) of how satellite dishes work when I was 6 or 7.

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Re: Starship's Tenth Flight Test

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Post by itishappy »

bamboozled wrote: post #103
itishappy wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> fascists on the moon and private space industry? Yay Give me the Apollo era anytime. The Apollo program was built in no small part by Nazis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip

Were the outputs of the project privately owned by them after receiving massive levels of tax payer funding?

I don't know who owned what, but many components of the Apollo era space program were manufactured by privately owned companies that received taxpayer funding: Grumman, Boeing, Rockwell, Douglass, and IBM to name a few.

Re: Starship's Tenth Flight Test

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Post by qmr »

erulabs wrote: post #5

Unbelievable! Watched with my 4 year old, he was full of questions about why the ocean was turning to nighttime, what satellites are, about going to another planet, about the earth being so blue and if we “ever even knew that before”. Just wonderful stuff. So excited for the future.

Go directly to steam and download Kerbal Space Program.

Thank me later.

Re: Starship's Tenth Flight Test

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Post by relwin »

oska wrote: post #119
kersplody wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not quite, but it's a major milestone. Still quite a bit of work to go on the rapid reusability part (burnt flaps, oxidized body, missing tiles, tile waterproofing). Starship might actually deliver payload to orbit on flight 11.

What's the need for tile waterproofing ?

Thunderf00t shows various tile problems with Starship: https://youtu.be/MZUQe38SJIs?si=QAVIk7fMX1HIQETb (he's not a fan of Musk)

Re: Starship's Tenth Flight Test

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Post by mayama »

dotnet00 wrote: post #116
themafia wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> every flight needed to have a perfect heat shield. Which is a little easier to do when your craft is shaped like a plane and not a simple cylinder. The loading and positioning were easier to model and then achieve in flight. The shuttle also flew with repair kits and glue that could be used in a vacuum. The astronauts could perform an EVA and work to replace damaged tiles and there were published plans on how to do…

I thought that while the spare tiles did exist, there was never an actual safe procedure for replacing tiles (that didn't require being docked to the ISS) they were only carried to be available when the choice was between losing the entire crew on reentry or risking a crew member? I don't quite understand how the airplane shape made it easier to model the loading and positioning? (Not saying you're wrong, just doesn'…

> I don't quite understand how the airplane shape made it easier to model the loading and positioning? (Not saying you're wrong, just doesn't fit my intuition and I'm curious).

You can approximate space shuttle reentry to roughly a 2d surface entering atmosphere. Because of airplane shape, the tile side faces atmosphere and the plasma goes around plane edges. Where as starship being cylinder doesn't have any separation boundary and plasma roughly goes more than 180% of the cylinder.

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Post by geerlingguy »

decimalenough wrote: post #15
Pigalowda wrote: post #6

So the starlink simulators its deploying right now are empty platters that will burn up in the atmosphere from what I understand. Next missions they’ll be real statlink sats. Are these different than regular sats? It sounds like they’re able to handle more bandwidth but I don’t know.

Starship will be deploying the next gen v3 satellites, which weigh about 2 tons each. A single Starship launch with 60 of these deploys more capacity than 20 launches of a Falcon 9.

IIRC the v3 sats can do like 1 Tbps of bandwidth thanks to a larger antenna system?

Re: Starship's Tenth Flight Test

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Post by erulabs »

qmr wrote: post #146
erulabs wrote: post #5

Unbelievable! Watched with my 4 year old, he was full of questions about why the ocean was turning to nighttime, what satellites are, about going to another planet, about the earth being so blue and if we “ever even knew that before”. Just wonderful stuff. So excited for the future.

Go directly to steam and download Kerbal Space Program. Thank me later.

Oh I will. My boy just turned 4, so he’s a little young for video games right now. Maybe 5 or 6? But we played spaceships in the park all evening. Looking forward to gaming age for sure!
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