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Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by jdiff » Tue, Aug 26, 2025, 11:06 PM UTC

jdminhbg wrote: post #134

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It's a brain chip. How do you feel about being blind and paralyzed? Or comatose? Or dead? How about never-ending pain or constant bright flashes? What if they go bankrupt, and something happens to the implant? Brain surgery isn't exactly an industry where "move fast and break things" is an acceptable approach - especially when you are the patient. Considering Neuralink's historical record, going first sounds like a h…

> Considering Neuralink's historical record What historical record? This article is about their first human participant.

They had a rocky path to that first human patient, and even the first human participant has had a rocky journey with it, with many electrodes failing soon after implanted.

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Aug 26, 2025, 11:09 PM UTC

tick_tock_tick wrote: post #137

arnaudsm wrote: post #131

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> I'm impressed by Musk's PR team. They hype tech years behind competitors with puff pieces like this with gullible journalists that don't contextualize. Ok where is a paraplegic who's life has been fundamentally improved more then the Neuralink patient one by some of these other technologies that are "years" ahead?

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Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by dataangel » Tue, Aug 26, 2025, 11:12 PM UTC

arnaudsm wrote: post #131

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> median word error rate of 25%

So 1 out of every 4 words is wrong? How does Neuralink compare?

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by terminalshort » Tue, Aug 26, 2025, 11:13 PM UTC

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You are right when it comes to qualia, but wholly incorrect in this case. There are measurable metrics in his life (ie independent use of computers, social engagements etc.) It's not like he's having to rate his level of happiness here, these are physical benefits

Who is measuring the physical benefits? because based on this article it's no one... so again, we're taking one person's word for it... and it's very likely this person is contractually obligated to not disparage the company

He may be obligated not to say bad things, but he isn't obligated to say good things.

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by hn_acc1 » Tue, Aug 26, 2025, 11:13 PM UTC

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For someone with a supreme lack of judgement he sure does own a lot of billion dollar companies. I strive to have the same lack of judgement that he has.

Pretty sure there's a correlation between intelligence + sociopathy and money.

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by sgustard » Tue, Aug 26, 2025, 11:13 PM UTC

arnaudsm wrote: post #131

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He's the most famous rich person on the planet, he was in an Iron Man movie, the president picked him to destroy the government, the list goes on. Of course he gets press coverage. Tesla doesn't even have a PR department.

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by gpm » Tue, Aug 26, 2025, 11:16 PM UTC

tick_tock_tick wrote: post #137

arnaudsm wrote: post #131

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> I'm impressed by Musk's PR team. They hype tech years behind competitors with puff pieces like this with gullible journalists that don't contextualize. Ok where is a paraplegic who's life has been fundamentally improved more then the Neuralink patient one by some of these other technologies that are "years" ahead?

Note that the first paper you were linked is about a patient in a clinical trial... the paraplegic's life which has been fundamentally improved is the participant in that clinical trial.

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by arnaudsm » Tue, Aug 26, 2025, 11:16 PM UTC

dataangel wrote: post #143

arnaudsm wrote: post #131

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> median word error rate of 25% So 1 out of every 4 words is wrong? How does Neuralink compare?

I agree significant bits per minute are a better metric, I vulgarized a bit too much.

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by goosejuice » Tue, Aug 26, 2025, 11:18 PM UTC

arnaudsm wrote: post #131

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Well your father can't buy a Waymo. Even if he could it wouldn't go very far, wouldn't work everywhere and would cost at least 2x a model 3 or Y. So there are at least several leads Tesla has.

It's a horrible comparison. Why do people keep making it? This isn't Lyft vs Uber. A better comparison to Tesla FSD would be blue cruise, super cruise, drive pilot, god's eye, and every other consumer level 2 ADAS.

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by ggm » Tue, Aug 26, 2025, 11:21 PM UTC

homefree wrote: post #125

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Do you think Pew research is a democrat shill body? https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2016/04/26/a-wider-ideo... I'm very midwitted. 50% of the planet is below the mean after all..

What is "education"? Is it degrees? There are a lot of problems with this. It's hardly a sign that someone "thinks critically". A lot mediocre students I knew in school stayed on to do more school because they were not able to do something else. A lot of degrees and classes are frankly bullshit and this problem has gotten worse since the 60s - the details matter. Time wasted studying pseudo-intellectual nonsense does…

> So it's not that I dispute the data that there's a lefty bias in universities (there obviously is), I dispute what that actually means.

The issue at hand isn't perceived bias in universities, it's voting tendencies of people who have higher education.

PS, this conversation is a waste of both of our times. I won't be continuing it. Because there is no good faith either side. I'm certainly not going to display any and I aver you aren't either, but you can judge for yourself.