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Re: AnduinOS

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This actually looks pretty neat, particularly the integration with Flatpak. One thing that confused me when I first went to Linux a million years ago was the difference in how you install stuff. With Windows you download an exe file, double click it, next next next finish, and you have your app installed. With Linux, every distro is slightly different and it's almost never quite as straightforward to people. I think…

Honestly, the fact that to install software you have to go on a site, download an installer, and run it, is one of the reasons why I don't like Windows.

Not only that thing is time consuming and cannot be easily automated, but it's error prone, you are likely to find in the first Google results not the official website of the software but some other site like Softonic that with the software also installs bloatware/malware/toolbars/etc. Of course an expert user can distinguish the official site from a scam, but usually the average computer user can't.

What I like about Linux is just that you type in a terminal (or you use one of the many GUI that exist) `sudo apt install ` and a version of that software, along with its dependencies, it is installed. And not only installed, but packaged, if needed patched, and tested to work along with other software in the distribution. When I install Windows I spend at least 1 hours going to every website of software that I need, download the installer, run the installer, click next, next, next, and repeat. With Linux I can just type in a single command every software that I need, let it run and install it, while I do other things.

And when you need to uninstall a software? On Windows you need the uninstaller, that if it was not created correctly, or created at all, will leave a lot of stuff on the system, files, registry keys, broken links, cache files, etc that you need to remove either manually or with some "cleaner" programs that do more harm than good, for that reason an installation of Windows needs to be formatted every X years cause of the accumulated crap.

From a developer point of view, and I've done many times, writing an installer for Windows, even using open source frameworks like NSIS, is a manual operation that is time consuming, can induce in errors, you need to learn a specific scripting language, etc, while making a package for Ubuntu/Debian (for example) is a simple operation, as simple as put the files of your software in a directory, put in a metadata file, and launch a command to produce the package. Most build systems (automake, cmake) already can create deb packages automatically with commonly used plugins.

Re: AnduinOS

#142
post #69

This actually looks pretty neat, particularly the integration with Flatpak. One thing that confused me when I first went to Linux a million years ago was the difference in how you install stuff. With Windows you download an exe file, double click it, next next next finish, and you have your app installed. With Linux, every distro is slightly different and it's almost never quite as straightforward to people. I think…

It has been years most distros allows you to install apps through tools like Gnome Software or KDE which look exactly like an app store regardless if you are using flatpak or regular packages.

Re: AnduinOS

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post #136
post #91

Why do people keep doing this?

Because instead of trying to improve GNU/Linux to be a solid alternative to Apple, Google and Microsoft offerings, we have politics with everyone doing their own little village. It was one of the reasons I eventually went back to Windows as main driver, yes it sucks for some things, there is M$ and all that, yet when one of my devices breaks down, I can get a replacement on the same day, without dealing with whatever…

> yet when one of my devices breaks down, I can get a replacement on the same day,

How many times has it happened in your life?

Anyone who uses a computer professionally has a backup ready at all time anyway. These days it is not like it is hard to find a computer with its baseline compatible with linux anyway. An incompatible network chip issue is easily solved with a know USB compatible wifi card. Usually only people buying brand new uncommon tech/features or gaming experience issues.

Re: AnduinOS

#144
Kinda cute and reminds me of KDE back in the early 2000s, just with the start menu in the middle.

Re: AnduinOS

#145

I really wish people creating a distro, and even more so distro of a distro of a distro should not call it OS. (Debian - Ubuntu . AnduinOS) I am alwasy happy to look at new operating system projects. It is a major hobby. Could distros use AnduinDI AnduinUbuntu AnduinLinux. or just Anduin I dont like getting my hopes up like that.

What does it actually mean to create a distro though? Is it just what software you package in your flavour of debian?

Re: AnduinOS

#146
post #69

This actually looks pretty neat, particularly the integration with Flatpak. One thing that confused me when I first went to Linux a million years ago was the difference in how you install stuff. With Windows you download an exe file, double click it, next next next finish, and you have your app installed. With Linux, every distro is slightly different and it's almost never quite as straightforward to people. I think…

I feel the Mac way is preferable, if possible.

Download a package (disk image) - macOS automatically extracts to the desktop. Drag and drop the application from the disk image into the /Applications directory. Done.

This is the way, I believe, most software should be installed. I understand some stuff might need to touch system files and for that, perhaps a wizard makes sense.

Re: AnduinOS

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post #146
post #69

This actually looks pretty neat, particularly the integration with Flatpak. One thing that confused me when I first went to Linux a million years ago was the difference in how you install stuff. With Windows you download an exe file, double click it, next next next finish, and you have your app installed. With Linux, every distro is slightly different and it's almost never quite as straightforward to people. I think…

I feel the Mac way is preferable, if possible. Download a package (disk image) - macOS automatically extracts to the desktop. Drag and drop the application from the disk image into the /Applications directory. Done. This is the way, I believe, most software should be installed. I understand some stuff might need to touch system files and for that, perhaps a wizard makes sense.

The Mac way kind of depends on how you get your application. Sometimes applications come from the app store, sometimes they're ZIP'ed files that get auto-extracted, sometimes they're in DMGs that are mounted but not extracted, and sometimes they open some kind of install wizard.

Some of them you can open by right-clicking them and hitting open. Others just open directly. There are also apps that throw up an error when you try to open them and you need to go to the security settings to hit an oddly-placed button to open them. Whether or not you've managed to run the program at least once also seems to influence whether or not an app in the applications folder actually shows up in Launchpad.

Windows does half of this too these days, but these days every OS is confusing and needs specific know-how when you just want to run the tool you downloaded.

Re: AnduinOS

#148
post #77

I have been distro-hopping since probably around 2004, whenever now someone is asking me what to recommend as a Linux, it’s as follow: - Entry level and everything you will ever need, stable, etc: Mint - Feeling adventures: go with arch or some of its arch-based distros. - Used linux before: NixOS.

Mint is just as bad as AnduinOS, it's just an Ubuntu clone. NixOS is just Silverblue but worse. Everyone should just be using Debian, or Arch if you want to rice, or Fedora if you use RHEL at work.

Re: AnduinOS

#149

Seeing the screenshot on the site with WPS Office seem like a huge red flag to me, while the distro might not be affiliated with WPS Office, I'll just put the link here to raise attention that WPS Office DOES NOT worth anyone's trust. https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/vz1gse/allegedly_wps...

It's a Chinese distro, so it's not that surprising that they package a Chinese office solution.

Re: AnduinOS

#150

It’s sad that it seems some of the comments are asking “Why?”… I’d say this is a good middle ground compromise for people who want the privacy of QubesOS but with an Ubuntu experience underneath

The reason I ask "why" is I don't understand what this does differently than a distro like Mint. There isn't really an explanation beyond "You remain anonymous to the system." All while promoting third-party software that does collect telemetry. What exactly does this distro offer that others don't?

It looks like Windows 11. Sounds inconsequential, but a different basic look and feel are a major problem for many people when they first try Linux.
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