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Re: Pebble Time 2 Design Reveal [video]

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Post by teekert »

RandomBacon wrote: post #130
Karawebnetwork wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally, I try not to use screens for a few hours before going to bed. Before bedtime, I limit myself to my e-ink book reader. The idea of having a screen on my wrist doesn't particularly appeal to me. My partner has one and when they turn over in bed, I am sometimes blinded by the screen which still glows brightly even at the lowest setting in complete darkness. That's why I'm considering a e-ink watch. The reaso…

> notifications and such before bedtime could be just as harmful to my nightline peacefulness. If you have an Android, you can set Do Not Disturb mode on a schedule.

“Focus” achieves the same thing for iOS.

Re: Pebble Time 2 Design Reveal [video]

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Post by modeless »

ncruces wrote: post #93

Is the color pixel arrangement still the same as the older pebbles? I was working on a subpixel rendering algorithm for it at the time, but then it was killed, and I shelved it.

The screen is the very same one that the Pebble Time 2 was going to use. I'm pretty sure it's the same as the other Pebbles.

Re: Pebble Time 2 Design Reveal [video]

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #46
aidenn0 wrote: post #32

My concern with the Pebble Time 2 is the lower contrast that color e-ink has compared to grayscale. I don't know how bad it is in person, but next to the Pebble 2 Duo in the video it looks much worse. If it were B&W I would have bought it immediately.

>My concern with the Pebble Time 2 is the lower contrast that color e-ink has compared to grayscale That's not eink technology, it's most likely Sharp Memory-in-Pixel (MIP) LCD display, where the difference between BW and color isn't as bad as in eink technology which uses actual pigment particles inside the pixel cells that "cloud" the contrast.

My Pebble 2 definitely had better contrast than my Pebble Time Steel. Not sure if that's still the case with modern screens.

Re: Pebble Time 2 Design Reveal [video]

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Post by delecti »

deanc wrote: post #61

What is the use-case now in 2025 for an e-ink watch? I have a Garmin Epix pro gen 2 which gets about a month of battery life and has a gorgeous AMOLED, has profiles for pretty much every sport ever invented, incredibly accurate GPS tracking, all day HR-tracking, ECG etc. I understand it's about 4x the price, but there's also lower-end Garmin's that are about 2x the price with the same screen, slightly less features a…

I recently switched to an AMOLED Garmin from a watch with an always-on screen (and before that, a pebble), so maybe I can weigh in.

The use-case for a transflective watch are the same as they were in 2013. I don't really care if my watch has a beautiful vibrant display, I want it to show the time, every single time I look at it. The Garmin's wrist turn gesture detection is decent, but far from perfect. I need to either poke the screen, push a button, or very deliberately raise my wrist to trigger the gesture detection. Also, it emits light every time the screen wakes, whether I'm looking or not, and whether the light from the watch will be disruptive or not.

None of that sounds convincing? Then this product probably just isn't aimed at you. And I don't mean that to be snarky, preferences around smartwatches are just really particular to the individual.

Re: Pebble Time 2 Design Reveal [video]

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Post by ragazzina »

delecti wrote: post #138
Y_Y wrote: post #131

The word "colorway" just reminds me of a dabacle with a certain browser. Does it mean anything more than "color" or "color scheme"? Do humans use the word in real life? I've never heard it outside of marketing copy.

I hear it all the time in reviews or discussions of tech products. I don't think it really means anything other than "color" or "color scheme", it's just a more product focused way of talking about it.

>I don't think it really means anything other than "color"

I am not a native English speaker, but isn't "color" more ambiguous than "colorway"? If I say "The red color is gorgeous", I could or could not be talking about a product. If I say "The red colorway is gorgeous", I am definitely talking about the color of a product.

Re: Pebble Time 2 Design Reveal [video]

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Post by delecti »

ragazzina wrote: post #146
delecti wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hear it all the time in reviews or discussions of tech products. I don't think it really means anything other than "color" or "color scheme", it's just a more product focused way of talking about it.

>I don't think it really means anything other than "color" I am not a native English speaker, but isn't "color" more ambiguous than "colorway"? If I say "The red color is gorgeous", I could or could not be talking about a product. If I say "The red colorway is gorgeous", I am definitely talking about the color of a product.

That's a good point. Saying you like the red "colorway" would make it clear that you're talking about the overall presentation, rather than commenting only on the red part of the overall product.

Re: Pebble Time 2 Design Reveal [video]

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Post by ethersteeds »

iAMkenough wrote: post #126
cyberax wrote: post #88

Is there a possibility to add NFC payments, like on Apple/Android devices? Is it even feasible? This is really a killer feature for me. GPS tracking would be nice to track runs, but I can live without it.

The payment processors would be your biggest hurdle.

Yes, features like this are what leads to DRM and locked bootloader requirements. It's a shame.

Re: Pebble Time 2 Design Reveal [video]

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Post by gffrd »

jsbisviewtiful wrote: post #79
deanc wrote: post #61

What is the use-case now in 2025 for an e-ink watch? I have a Garmin Epix pro gen 2 which gets about a month of battery life and has a gorgeous AMOLED, has profiles for pretty much every sport ever invented, incredibly accurate GPS tracking, all day HR-tracking, ECG etc. I understand it's about 4x the price, but there's also lower-end Garmin's that are about 2x the price with the same screen, slightly less features a…

Garmins are incredibly expensive and not everyone wants a fitness tracker. Garmin's UX is also very disjointed between devices for how expensive they are. Plus, battery life tends to be garbage for smartwatches. I just sold my Apple Watch for a Coros because I was tired of trading battery life for features I didn't want/use and Garmins also require yet another subscription for some features. As someone who just spent…

Are we talking about the same Garmin?

I have an Instinct 2 that cost me under $200 new, goes 2+ weeks between charges, and handles all activities I throw at it quite well.

I agree: their launching of a subscription service is disappointing, because (1) it was wonderful having a no-recurring-cost ecosystem before, and (2) presumably that's where they'll be investing their product dollars. But, it's not required, and to date, it's not particularly high value.

Re: Pebble Time 2 Design Reveal [video]

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Post by cyberax »

ethersteeds wrote: post #148
iAMkenough wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The payment processors would be your biggest hurdle.

Yes, features like this are what leads to DRM and locked bootloader requirements. It's a shame.

Intuitively, segregating the payment processing into its own secure enclave seems to be feasible?

As I understand, the "secure" nature of iWatch means that the signature requirement is waived when you pay with it. Regular contactless cards still require you to sign (in the US).

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