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Re: Tim Cook rallying Apple employees around AI efforts

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Post by therealpygon »

xdennis wrote: post #73
potatolicious wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- If you get into a car crash with your iPhone a ML model detects this and automatically calls emergency services. - If you are wearing an Apple Watch a ML model is constantly analyzing your heart rhythm and will alert you to (some types of) irregularities. It's so computationally efficient it can literally do this in the background all day long. - When you take any picture on any iPhone a whole array of ML models im…

> Or are we playing that stupid game where "AI === LLM"? Well, the original question was specifically about LLMs. ("What other companies have successfully integrated LLM tech in their mainstream products?")

They weren’t responding to the original question.

Re: Tim Cook rallying Apple employees around AI efforts

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Post by nunez »

heavyset_go wrote: post #105
MrDarcy wrote: post #69

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You’re not thinking two or three orders out. It’s not about the modem, it’s about reducing the resource allocation of a boring component to make space for increasing the resources of other exciting components, taking the whole into account. iPhone will get some new exciting feature and everyone will wonder how they managed to do it at the price point nobody else can.

Name some "new exciting features" iPhones gained in the last 5 years that made their way into music videos like the iPod did

Memojis and Oscar-winning movies shot entirely on iPhone

Re: Tim Cook rallying Apple employees around AI efforts

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Post by nunez »

financltravsty wrote: post #63
nunez wrote: post #30

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Misinformed take IMO. M-series chips are insanely cool (literally and figuratively) and have no competition even five years in. Same with the W-series SoCs on watches. Are there any third-party haptic vibration motors yet? Shoot, even their trackpads, which already stood alone, have gotten _better_ over the years. Nobody else will have their own vertically-integrated modem out in production. This will make budget iPh…

You talk like a nerd. Cool is a vibe, not tech specs and little things. It's a whole aura. Apple is not cool.

Doesn't make those achievements any less cool to me

Re: Tim Cook rallying Apple employees around AI efforts

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Post by pjmlp »

lapcat wrote: post #122
weikju wrote: post #120

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> current Apple employees here, maybe they can weigh in. Unless things have changed in the last 15 years, my understanding was that they actually are barred from doing just that

Where do you think Mark Gurman's story came from?

Anonymous sources that he trusts enough to be Apple employees, which isn't what OP is referring about, rather them saying something here.

Naturally then you need the proof any random nickname is actually who they say they are.

Re: Tim Cook rallying Apple employees around AI efforts

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Post by specialist »

nunez wrote: post #30
burnt-resistor wrote: post #22

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Lucrative but not cool. There's no long term strategy if there's no new, category-defining, cool products. People will eventually sour on the same-old, same-old and expensive, fragile, unrepairable products. Excessive greed obliterates goodwill. You don't seem to understand sj placed cool first, while TC was the bean counter and continues to optimize this while jumping the shark. Current Apple has a deep, systemic la…

Misinformed take IMO. M-series chips are insanely cool (literally and figuratively) and have no competition even five years in. Same with the W-series SoCs on watches. Are there any third-party haptic vibration motors yet? Shoot, even their trackpads, which already stood alone, have gotten _better_ over the years. Nobody else will have their own vertically-integrated modem out in production. This will make budget iPh…

> their own vertically-integrated modem

I'm kinda jazzed about this.

Integration, power, and UX improvements, sure.

But (as a noob), I imagine having their own base band (?) chip will be like having built-in software defined radios. Opening up new applications and uses cases.

Re: Tim Cook rallying Apple employees around AI efforts

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Post by specialist »

pstuart wrote: post #114
reactordev wrote: post #58

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Exactly, Tim Cook is a finance guy - he knows the numbers and how to keep Apple profitable. What he lacks is product vision. His one opportunity (ironically, vision) fell flat.

The Apple Car fiasco happened on his watch too.

I would not want to be an auto manufacturer right now.

Recall Solyndra's fate.

A single US-based manufacturer with very modest govt support vs China's all-in strategic industrial policy, commitment to dominating the market, spinning up the entire supply chain composed of 100s of companies.

Its the same situation with batteries and automobiles.

Re: Tim Cook rallying Apple employees around AI efforts

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Post by hnburnsy »

pcdoodle wrote: post #66
burnt-resistor wrote: post #22

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Lucrative but not cool. There's no long term strategy if there's no new, category-defining, cool products. People will eventually sour on the same-old, same-old and expensive, fragile, unrepairable products. Excessive greed obliterates goodwill. You don't seem to understand sj placed cool first, while TC was the bean counter and continues to optimize this while jumping the shark. Current Apple has a deep, systemic la…

I'm on a M4 with nano texture display. It's IMO the pinnacle of what a computer should be. I hate apple and their anti repair practices but wanted to chime in about how good the hardware has become. If they push forward with local AI that can be somewhat trusted, it would be a huge win.

> I'm on a M4 with nano texture display. It's IMO the pinnacle of what a computer should be. I hate apple and their anti repair practices but wanted to chime in about how good the hardware has become. > > If they push forward with local AI that can be somewhat trusted, it would be a huge win.

How is that touch screen?

Re: Tim Cook rallying Apple employees around AI efforts

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Post by lapcat »

pjmlp wrote: post #144
lapcat wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where do you think Mark Gurman's story came from?

Anonymous sources that he trusts enough to be Apple employees, which isn't what OP is referring about, rather them saying something here. Naturally then you need the proof any random nickname is actually who they say they are.

> Naturally then you need the proof any random nickname is actually who they say they are.

I don't need proof. I know that Apple employees visit HN and sometimes comment. In any case, this is not a high-stakes product leak: I'm just asking for their personal impressions of this company-wide meeting that has already been reported.

Re: Tim Cook rallying Apple employees around AI efforts

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Post by pstuart »

specialist wrote: post #146
pstuart wrote: post #114

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The Apple Car fiasco happened on his watch too.

I would not want to be an auto manufacturer right now. Recall Solyndra's fate. A single US-based manufacturer with very modest govt support vs China's all-in strategic industrial policy, commitment to dominating the market, spinning up the entire supply chain composed of 100s of companies. Its the same situation with batteries and automobiles.

I agree they're in a horrible bind.

In a different timeline, we'd have a "master plan" of how to ensure industry (and the populous) is able to thrive in the future. I believe it's technically a solvable problem but it requires adults in the room, who value the the country as a whole. We do not have that, and I'm afraid it's possible we never will.

Re: Tim Cook rallying Apple employees around AI efforts

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Post by j_timberlake »

hollerith wrote: post #81

I thank Tim Cook for this information. Till today I did not know the extent of Apple's commitment to or interest in doing frontier AI research. I was leaning towards buying a Mac, but now I won't because I do what (little) I can to slow down AI. Switching to Windows would also clearly be encouraging the AI juggernaut, so I will stay with Linux.

Your phone is probably an Android or iPhone, it's funding AI research with your hard-earned money! Better smash it with a rock and eat the pieces.
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