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Re: Ollama's new app

#142
post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

one of the maintainers for Ollama. I don't see it as a pivot. We are all developers ourselves, and we use it. In fact, there are many self-made prototypes before this from different individuals. We were hooked, so we built it for ourselves. Ollama is made for developers, and our focus in continually improving Ollama's capabilities.

Question since you are here, how long before tool-calling is enabled for Gemma3 models?

Seems that Google intend it to be that way - https://ai.google.dev/gemma/docs/capabilities/function-calli... . I suppose they are saying that the model is good enough that if you put the tool call format in prompt it should be able to handle any formats.

I use PetrosStav/gemma3-tools and it seems that it only works half of the time - the rest the model call the tool but it doesn't get properly parsed by Ollama.

Re: Ollama's new app

#143
post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

one of the maintainers for Ollama. I don't see it as a pivot. We are all developers ourselves, and we use it. In fact, there are many self-made prototypes before this from different individuals. We were hooked, so we built it for ourselves. Ollama is made for developers, and our focus in continually improving Ollama's capabilities.

do you know why ollama hasn't updated its models in over a month while many fantastic models have been released in that time, most recently GLM 4.5? It's forcing me to use LM Studio which I for whatever reason absolutely do not prefer. thank you guys for all your work on it, regardless

We work closely with majority of research labs / model creates directly. Most of the times we will support models on release day. There are sometimes where the release window for major models are fairly close - and we just have to elect to support models where we believe will better support a majority of users.

Nothing out of spite, and purely limited by the amount of effort required to support these models.

We are hopeful too -- where users can technically add models to Ollama directly. Although there is definitely some learning curve.

Re: Ollama's new app

#144
post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

one of the maintainers for Ollama. I don't see it as a pivot. We are all developers ourselves, and we use it. In fact, there are many self-made prototypes before this from different individuals. We were hooked, so we built it for ourselves. Ollama is made for developers, and our focus in continually improving Ollama's capabilities.

do you know why ollama hasn't updated its models in over a month while many fantastic models have been released in that time, most recently GLM 4.5? It's forcing me to use LM Studio which I for whatever reason absolutely do not prefer. thank you guys for all your work on it, regardless

GLM 4.5 has a new/modified architecture. From what I understand, MLX was really one of the only frameworks that had support for it as of yesterday. LM Studio supports MLX as one backend. Everyone else was/is still developing support for it.

Ollama has the new 235B and 30B Qwen3 models from this week, so it’s not as if they have done nothing for a month.

Re: Ollama's new app

#145
post #54

Looks like a big pivot on target audience from developers to regular users, at least on the homepage https://ollama.com/ as a product. Before, it was all about the CLI versions of Ollama for devs, now it's not even mentioned. At the bottom of the blog post it says: > For pure CLI versions of Ollama, standalone downloads are available on Ollama’s GitHub releases page. Nothing against that, just an observation. Previou…

one of the maintainers for Ollama. I don't see it as a pivot. We are all developers ourselves, and we use it. In fact, there are many self-made prototypes before this from different individuals. We were hooked, so we built it for ourselves. Ollama is made for developers, and our focus in continually improving Ollama's capabilities.

I think welcoming another stream of users, in addition to develoeprs is a good idea.

Lots of people trying to being, and many with Ollama, and helping to create beginners is never a bad thing with tech.

Re: Ollama's new app

#146
post #54

Looks like a big pivot on target audience from developers to regular users, at least on the homepage https://ollama.com/ as a product. Before, it was all about the CLI versions of Ollama for devs, now it's not even mentioned. At the bottom of the blog post it says: > For pure CLI versions of Ollama, standalone downloads are available on Ollama’s GitHub releases page. Nothing against that, just an observation. Previou…

one of the maintainers for Ollama. I don't see it as a pivot. We are all developers ourselves, and we use it. In fact, there are many self-made prototypes before this from different individuals. We were hooked, so we built it for ourselves. Ollama is made for developers, and our focus in continually improving Ollama's capabilities.

I think welcoming another stream of users, in addition to develoeprs is a good idea.

Lots of people trying to being, and many with Ollama, and helping to create beginners is never a bad thing with tech.

Many things can be for both developers and end-users. Developers can use the API directly, end users, have more choices.

Re: Ollama's new app

#148
Well, they gotta do what they gotta do. But as a developer, this kills the positioning and trust it had for me. I do not see it as a developer tool project anymore.

Re: Ollama's new app

#149
Not surprising; Ollama is set on becoming the standard interface for companies to deploy "open" models. The focus on "local" is incidental, and likely not long term. I'm sure Ollama is going to announce a plan to use "open" models through their own cloud-based API using this app.

Re: Ollama's new app

#150

I am somewhat surprised that this app doesn't seem to offer any way to connect to a remote Ollama instance. The most powerful computer I own isn't necessarily the one I'm running the GUI on.

The app does have a function to expose Ollama to the network, so perhaps its coming?

It's definitely coming, there is no way they would leave such an important feature on the table. My guess is they are waiting so they can announce connections to their own servers.
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