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What even is 'adult' content? [NSFW]

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Re: What even is 'adult' content? [NSFW]

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I’m sure you’ve seen sexual content you wouldn’t want your children to see. A lot of pornography is also for lonely horny men and gives children false and even unhealthy impressions of human sexual experience.

And killing/hitting/maiming another human being is a healthy impression of the human experience compared to it?

There’s violence I don’t want my kids to see either, a “gotcha” involving cartoon violence isn’t approaching the topic in good faith imo. Not really worth discussing further.

It’s more nuanced than sex = good, violence = bad.

Re: What even is 'adult' content? [NSFW]

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>It's a much bigger question why, such a completely natural and normal thing, like nudity, [...] be made and exclusive thing. As Nietzsche said, the time has come when we have to pay for having been Christians for two thousand years. That's the simple answer, nudity and sexuality (also entirely natural and normal), have been deemed sinful, you're supposed to avert your eyes from it, and so on. It's so deeply ingraine…

Every civilized culture on earth has norms against public nudity. Objectively there appears to be something more biologically successful about cultures where nudity is reserved for private spaces than those who treat it otherwise

>Every civilized culture on earth has norms against public nudity

Every civilized society has norms for everything, that's the tautological definition of what being civilized means. It's how civilized people define success. But this is not culture (as per Nietzsche) but just the opposite of it. To think the two are synonymous is exactly what he attributes to Christianity.

The Danish mixed nude beach goer is indeed technically less civilized but no less cultured, free, vital or unburdened by social anxieties about her body or conduct, she's strong-willed exactly to the extent that she's uncivilized.

Re: What even is 'adult' content? [NSFW]

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It’s the checking part that’s the bigger issue to me. Speaks to some weapons grade incompetence at highest levels of government Sending passport scans to random sleezy websites that are likely not even under British jurisdiction is beyond insane

That’s the whole point of digital id. You won’t be sending a passport scan you’ll be sending a verifiable blob of data that says you’re over 18. Is it incompetent to ask for ID to purchase alcohol? Because that’s all this is, but more privacy respecting…

As far as I know, there isn't a serious implementation of this that is ready for production and that has enough adoption in the affected regions (e.g. UK).

Chrome and Safari are working on browser APIs that seem reasonable, but will only be available around the end of this year. The various region specific identity providers (like GOV.UK One Login) will also need to integrate with those (possibly through Google/Apple Wallet or their own app).

That means one has to use shady 3p age verification services (like Persona) which do who-knows-what with customer data and cost on the order of $1 per verification.

Re: What even is 'adult' content? [NSFW]

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post #126

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Would you celebrate the choice of entering sex work like, say, that of someone entering medicine or law? “You’d make such a good porn star!”, we could say encouragingly to a new grad considering between OF and Stanford. No, we wouldn’t, because despite a weird and deliberate normalizing effort in some corners of the Internet, it’s an intrinsically degrading field run by pimps physical or digital now, and an existenti…

A person having sex is not intrinsically degrading.

You experimented with your reduction in language such that it’s a banality now.

However, submitting to pimps is degrading, submitting to the violence and extreme sexual behavior of sex clients is degrading, and at least in most societies, losing one’s social place to perform sex work is also degrading.

Not all sw’ers, sure, some sw’ers are wealthy, sure a few are.

It’s just extreme arguments of the extremely online. Zero parents in this thread are encouraging their daughters to participate in such an industry.

Re: What even is 'adult' content? [NSFW]

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I'm a new parent who recently stumbled into the world of Instagram breastfeeding pornography. I just wanted to say that the content I saw seemed to be almost universally published by men rather than women pushing their own OnlyFans content. I know you probably didn't intend it that way but I often see criticism of OnlyFans specifically made when I wouldn't have seen it around traditionally male operated pornography p…

There's more than a subtle misogyny to the anti-OF messaging people throw around, not to label the grandparent comment as falling into this issue. I have seen comments along the lines of "Onlyfans spotted, opinion dismissed," numerous times online under posts/videos completely unrelated to a content creators OF business. The idea that a person is a sex worker and therefore a slut (in a derogatory rather than reclaime…

Really? I always saw that as a similar reaction to what you may see here on HN when people dismiss an article because it's written by a party trying to (subtly) push their (possibly semi-related) product. In other words, it's a defense (perhaps unjustified in many cases) against being manipulated by the poster.

Re: What even is 'adult' content? [NSFW]

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post #58

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So China and Japan are abrahamic? India is abrahamic? Every civilization on earth has norms against public nudity. Seems to be something more fundamental than blaming abrahamic religions

The context of this thread and the linked article implies that we aren't discussing every civilization on Earth. I apologize for not explicitly having stated that, sometimes I forget that this is HN, where nuance and context go to die. Norms against nudity within Western societies - excluding non-Western societies such as in China, Japan and India - are based on Abrahamic religions. It is true that other non-Western…

> in the US breastfeeding is considered implicitly sexual and thus allowing it in public spaces is controversial

No it's not https://thelactationcollection.com/blog/breastfeeding-in-pub...

Re: What even is 'adult' content? [NSFW]

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post #122

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I am not even talking about really graphic violence, just your run of the mill crime story, shooting your husband to get the life insurance.

Well that’s not considered adult in any jurisdiction I know of. Maybe PG-13 at most.

I mean that is the point. What happens to the rating if the women does not shoot at her husband but opens her bathrobe and starts undressing him?

Re: What even is 'adult' content? [NSFW]

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post #103

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Yes. That “send your passport in” type of id verification is complete BS and everyone knows that. That’s why there is so much work going into modern cryptographic digital identity standards. You should be able to say “I have it on good authority that I’m over 18” and the other party simply computes the hash of that statement and checks that it matches one of the hashed claims in your digital credential. https://www.i…

No I get that people are working on it, I mean does the UK have an implementation of it for the online safety act that just went into effect? The only things I've seen are friends having to submit a photo of their ID to discord to keep using it, etc. The GP was talking about the British version of this specifically right

simple answer no. OFCOM the regulator responsible for ensuring compliance has a nice guide on how you can prove you should be allow to see such filth: """ And how will I prove my age?

There’s a number of methods a site or app might use to ask you to confirm your age. They might do this check themselves or use another company to do the check. These methods include:

- Facial age estimation – you show your face via photo or video, and technology analyses it to estimate your age.

- Open banking – you give permission for the age-check service to securely access information from your bank about whether you are over 18. The age-check service then confirms this with the site or app.

- Digital identity services – these include digital identity wallets, which can securely store and share information which proves your age in a digital format.

- Credit card age checks – you provide your credit card details and a payment processor checks if the card is valid. As you must be over 18 to obtain a credit card this shows you are over 18.

- Email-based age estimation – you provide your email address, and technology analyses other online services where it has been used – such as banking or utility providers - to estimate your age.

- Mobile network operator age checks – you give your permission for an age-check service to confirm whether or not your mobile phone number has age filters applied to it. If there are no restrictions, this confirms you are over 18.

- Photo-ID matching – this is similar to a check when you show a document. For example, you upload an image of a document that shows your face and age, and an image of yourself at the same time – these are compared to confirm if the document is yours. """

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/online-safety/protecting-children/a...

Re: What even is 'adult' content? [NSFW]

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post #144
post #137

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A person having sex is not intrinsically degrading.

You experimented with your reduction in language such that it’s a banality now. However, submitting to pimps is degrading, submitting to the violence and extreme sexual behavior of sex clients is degrading, and at least in most societies, losing one’s social place to perform sex work is also degrading. Not all sw’ers, sure, some sw’ers are wealthy, sure a few are. It’s just extreme arguments of the extremely online.…

None of the things you're critiquing are intrinsic to sex work and your argument is that it is intrinsically degrading. You made the point that work isn't intrinsically degrading, since you don't consider working in prestigious fields like medicine or law to be, nor do you consider working in physically demanding and less traditionally prestigious fields like garbage collection. I pointed out that sex isn't degrading either, since it isn't, sex is just something people do with each other.

So, since the only things intrinsic to sex work are that you're performing sex as a form of labour it raises the question; Where does the intrinsic degradation lie? In the labour or the sex?

Re: What even is 'adult' content? [NSFW]

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post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you celebrate the choice of entering sex work like, say, that of someone entering medicine or law? “You’d make such a good porn star!”, we could say encouragingly to a new grad considering between OF and Stanford. No, we wouldn’t, because despite a weird and deliberate normalizing effort in some corners of the Internet, it’s an intrinsically degrading field run by pimps physical or digital now, and an existenti…

Not every job is glamorous. Would you be proud of your child for becoming a garbage man? "You'd make such a good garbage man!", we could say encouragingly to a new grad considering between sanitization engineering and Stanford. Probably not, yet society depends on garbagemen to function smoothly. And we should be happy that in the modern era people can pursue unglamorous careers, and be accepted by society, and not s…

Garbage collection is similar to other male trades - they tend to be stable, respectable (although not the level of law/med to be sure but certainly among blue collar work), often well paid for the entry reqs.

Did humans stop abusing one another and I missed it, and all the harms of being used sexually by the world are gone now?

>It's only a dwindling number of bigots who look down on people because of their career choices.

Women have some of the strongest opinions against sw, so you have the floor if you want to attack that half.

https://prostitutescollective.net/independent-a-quarter-of-w...

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