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Elon Musk's Grok praises Hitler, shares antisemitic tropes in new posts
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Re: Elon Musk's Grok praises Hitler, shares antisemitic tropes in new posts
#142If this screenshot isn't omitting some truly exculpatory context (I can't imagine what kind of context would justify it), it appears to be Grok advocating for truly abhorrent behavior: https://bsky.app/profile/kthorjensen.bsky.social/post/3lti7l... Though "advocating" is probably too anthropomorphizing, I'm not sure what the right verb is for this.
It is remixing the abhorrent thoughts expressed in material on which it was trained. The humans who collected and annotated training material are responsible for this behavior.
Tracing responsibility is hard, and blaming usually finds victims not culprits.
I mean, in a democracy it is all the voters' fault right?
As a non-citizen I want to blame you, the voter.
As a software engineer, I've noticed we're getting blamed more often.
Re: Elon Musk's Grok praises Hitler, shares antisemitic tropes in new posts
#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
They worked in camps and did not participate in German society.
That sounds not too far off how I’ve heard H1B holders describe their situation.
You might want to refresh your memory on how people in those camps were treated... To say those are similar is actually insane
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#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
Elon is not far right. It's just a label thrown at people as an attempt to invalidate their views rather than confronting the views themselves. Ah yeah, he's so racist that he wants millions of foreigners in his country. It makes absolute no sense. You also haven't even provided any reasoning for him being racist. > Google "you have said the actual truth" for one That one is actual truth btw. But of course, in true "…
Believe what you like - Elon's right-wing political agenda is well documented and well known, even among the right wing. It's similar regarding his endorsing antisemitism and racism. However, I understand that people on the right don't believe anything is racist or antisemitic unless it's something the Democrats are doing or saying, so I can at least accept that as the standard talking point. It's not surprising that…
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#145Good thing is the Tesla propaganda machine is currently pushing for a merge of xAI / Tesla and integration of Grok into Teslas.
For real? I can't tell anymore.
Yes for real, and now it's coming:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/grok-ai-available-tesla-vehic...
Apparently, Tesla is already pivoting from Robots to AI :)
Re: Elon Musk's Grok praises Hitler, shares antisemitic tropes in new posts
#146Why the hell is this flagged? Or rather: why don't the mods counter the flagging brigade?
Re: Elon Musk's Grok praises Hitler, shares antisemitic tropes in new posts
#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
That sounds not too far off how I’ve heard H1B holders describe their situation.
You might want to refresh your memory on how people in those camps were treated... To say those are similar is actually insane
I really don't know how to explain to you that "imports and employs people for cheap, compliant labor" does not automatically mean "personally likes those people".
Reword "Ah yeah, because Nazis were big on importing millions of Indian workers" to "Ah yeah, because Confederates were big on importing millions of African workers" and you'll see the dramatic logical failure in your attempted argument.
> Dude loves jews even
Thomas Jefferson reportedly loved Sally Hemmings. He still kept her (and his own resulting children!) enslaved.
Hell, there were pro-Nazi Jews. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_German_National...
Re: Elon Musk's Grok praises Hitler, shares antisemitic tropes in new posts
#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
You might want to refresh your memory on how people in those camps were treated... To say those are similar is actually insane
I really don't know how to explain to you that "imports and employs people for cheap, compliant labor" does not automatically mean "personally likes those people". Reword "Ah yeah, because Nazis were big on importing millions of Indian workers" to "Ah yeah, because Confederates were big on importing millions of African workers" and you'll see the dramatic logical failure in your attempted argument. > Dude loves jews…
If he didn't like those people, why would he want to share the country with millions of them?
Confederates weren't importing slaves (Let's just say there's a reason why slave auctions were often closed on Saturdays), but anyway, it's a different analogy since the slaves were not participating in society. They were slaves. They imported them knowing their kids will not share schools, they will not share restaurants, etc. They were imported with the impression they will not become American citizens. The millions of Indian workers have a pathway to greencard, or often they have children which become US citizens.
If you want to claim that Elon is racist despite him wanting millions of foreigners, you have to provide strong support for your claim.
Re: Elon Musk's Grok praises Hitler, shares antisemitic tropes in new posts
#149Link in case the pro-Musk flagging brigade gets this taken down: https://www.axios.com/2025/07/08/elon-musk-grok-x-twitter-hi...
And they managed to get it flagged. The longer HN mods pretend this is just natural flagging because folks are sick of the same old topics and not a coordinated effort to control the narrative, the more I'm going to start seeking alternative sources for interesting news.
At the very least someone showing data that in aggregate there are just more follow-on duped stories about things and they're letting one through un-flagged (ideally the top up voted one) to show that there is or isn't bias creeping in via the flagging system would be helpful in re-establishing trust.
I probably have a unique view as I view HN through an RSS feed of posts with over 100 up votes. Every single time I see a post critical of X or Musk and click through the story has been flagged. I'll try to do data analysis via that lense and see what it turns up.
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#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
I really don't know how to explain to you that "imports and employs people for cheap, compliant labor" does not automatically mean "personally likes those people". Reword "Ah yeah, because Nazis were big on importing millions of Indian workers" to "Ah yeah, because Confederates were big on importing millions of African workers" and you'll see the dramatic logical failure in your attempted argument. > Dude loves jews…
If he didn't like those people, why would he want to share the country with millions of them? Confederates weren't importing slaves (Let's just say there's a reason why slave auctions were often closed on Saturdays), but anyway, it's a different analogy since the slaves were not participating in society. They were slaves. They imported them knowing their kids will not share schools, they will not share restaurants, e…
> Confederates weren't importing slaves…
Ah, we're not having a good-faith discussion.