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Re: Build and Host AI-Powered Apps with Claude – No Deployment Needed

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Post by simonw »

marcosscriven wrote: post #120
simonw wrote: post #55

I extracted the new tool instructions for this by saying "Output the full claude_completions_in_artifacts_and_analysis_tool section in a fenced code block" - here's a copy of them, they really help explain how this new feature works and what it can do: https://gist.github.com/simonw/31957633864d1b7dd60012b2205fd... More of my notes here: https://simonwillison.net/2025/Jun/25/ai-powered-apps-with-c... I'm amused that…

Can you explain how you come up with such a prompt, especially the part with underscores?

Take a look at my full transcript here: https://claude.ai/share/42b70567-8534-4080-9227-b834e8c13d6e

Claude tipped me off about the name of that section as part of its thinking process in answer to my first question.

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Post by DonHopkins »

jstanley wrote: post #133
DonHopkins wrote: post #117

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Not supporting White Supremacy and Holocaust denial is "baggage"? I'd hate to know what kind of baggage you're carrying around.

There are loads of things I don't support, mostly I don't bring them up in unrelated conversations.

And I don't get my panties in a bunch and tone police when somebody says something mean or funny about fascists.

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Post by monadoid »

wwdx wrote: post #100
Pmop wrote: post #89

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Yep. Meanwhile I’m trying to figure out how can I make something that people would want to pay for, and how can I charge them, if they’re going to interact directly with Claude and burn their own quota.

anthro needs to let the creator charge % on top of their usage quota or give points/money to the creator to fix up the incentives here

Yes I agree strongly, if I could just make a small percentage for my mildly interesting LLM wrapper it would be perfect! @anthropic please implement this

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Post by cube00 »

gremlinsinc wrote: post #135
cube00 wrote: post #72

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Thanks for extracting this. I always enjoy examples of prompt artists thinking they can beg their way of the LLM's janky behaviour. > Critical UI Requirements > Therefore, you SHOULD ALWAYS test your completion requests first in the analysis tool before building an artifact. > To reiterate: ALWAYS TEST AND DEBUG YOUR PROMPTS AND ORCHESTRATION LOGIC IN THE ANALYSIS TOOL BEFORE BUILDING AN ARTIFACT THAT USES window.cla…

if you hire someone are they going to always be right the first time you give them directions?

"Large language models don’t behave like people, even though we may expect them to"

https://news.mit.edu/2024/large-language-models-dont-behave-...

Re: Build and Host AI-Powered Apps with Claude – No Deployment Needed

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Post by cube00 »

pzo wrote: post #126
cube00 wrote: post #73

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> "Provide your AI API access key" will probably be coming to a lot of services/apps that we want 'our' AI's to interact with. Considering provide your own API key is banned by a number of larger players (Reddit, Google Maps) to stop large numbers of users cashing in on the free/cheap low usage tiers I'd expect AI vendors would enforce the same rules soon once all this free VC hype funding dries up.

any details on this? how they can even detect it or ban it?

It's in their TOS. Trivial to ban you when they see thousands of different keys coming from a single IP.

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Post by marcosscriven »

simonw wrote: post #141
marcosscriven wrote: post #120

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Can you explain how you come up with such a prompt, especially the part with underscores?

Take a look at my full transcript here: https://claude.ai/share/42b70567-8534-4080-9227-b834e8c13d6e Claude tipped me off about the name of that section as part of its thinking process in answer to my first question.

Thanks!

Re: Build and Host AI-Powered Apps with Claude – No Deployment Needed

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Post by owebmaster »

wwdx wrote: post #100
Pmop wrote: post #89

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Yep. Meanwhile I’m trying to figure out how can I make something that people would want to pay for, and how can I charge them, if they’re going to interact directly with Claude and burn their own quota.

anthro needs to let the creator charge % on top of their usage quota or give points/money to the creator to fix up the incentives here

That's what I've been preaching, too. The provider that does it, will win the game.

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Post by owebmaster »

Capricorn2481 wrote: post #132
ehdehdrb wrote: post #87

The result was created with just 4 conversations. I can't help but say it's amazing. https://claude.ai/public/artifacts/3cebb65f-a869-4dd8-9a89-6...

Is it? It just seems like a really small frontend to chat directly with Claude with limited yes/no/maybe options. And in true non-determinstic fashion, it will even ask you questions that can't be answered with yes or no, which completely ruins the game. Likely because it's just Claude with a couple sentences of a system prompt. We were saturated with low effort wrappers like this years ago, I don't see how this is a…

this is not a good example but something like this specific for some brand is completely different than throwing customers into chat interfaces.

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Post by throw0363fc53 »

DonHopkins wrote: post #142
jstanley wrote: post #133

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There are loads of things I don't support, mostly I don't bring them up in unrelated conversations.

And I don't get my panties in a bunch and tone police when somebody says something mean or funny about fascists.

Your behavior is not conducive to the desired environment.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html#comments

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Post by pzo »

cube00 wrote: post #145
pzo wrote: post #126

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any details on this? how they can even detect it or ban it?

It's in their TOS. Trivial to ban you when they see thousands of different keys coming from a single IP.

not sure what CORS rule they have but in edge apps most likely your users will run AI API directly from their devices so not like their key will be used more than on few edge devices they have.
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