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Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by mkoubaa »

namenotrequired wrote: post #75
eddieroger wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From your link: > The defendant, Preston Thorpe, appeals his conviction for possession of a controlled drug with intent to sell He may have done other things, but his conviction was for possession with intent, and that seems to be why he's locked up. It doesn't make anything else he's done acceptable, but in America he's innocent until proven guilty, and it doesn't seem he was found guilty of assault.

He’s not just saying he was locked up due to drugs. He’s saying that “all” his “poor decisions and lifestyle choices” in his twenties were related to drugs.

It's not that wild to notice the connection between drug use and domestic abuse.

Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by 999900000999 »

glommer wrote: post #30
chatmasta wrote: post #6

How does the compensation work? The US prison system has a bit of a nasty reputation when it comes to exploiting prison labor, so I hope those practices aren’t carrying over into these more forward-looking types of initiative… but at the same time, surely Turso isn’t paying full SWE salary?

I am the Turso CEO. We pay him a full salary, just not health care benefits.

Your doing the Lord's work.

Even if you just paid him the state minimum wage, it would stop him from having a giant employment gap.

The next step would be background check reform. A DUI record isn't relevant to anything not involving driving.

Excluding a very small handful of SVU level crimes everything should be wiped clean after 5 years or so.

I had an experience with a co worker who would brag about robbing people, selling substances and when he got caught his family money made it go away. He's a CTO at a mid sized tech company now. Had he been poor he'd have a record and be lucky to work as a Walgreens clerk.

Was the biggest "tough on crime" person I've ever met. I think people with means don't understand if you don't have money you can't afford bail.

Can't afford bail you'll just be indefinitely detained without trial for months if not years.

Everything about the criminal justice system is about exploitation. Get house arrest, that's a daily monitoring fee. States like Florida are forcing released inmates to repay the state for the cost of incarceration.

It's past fixing tbh, I'm personally hopping to immigrate to a functional country soon.

Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by y-curious »

1234letshaveatw wrote: post #122
brettermeier wrote: post #91

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Because that's what a social community would do. But where you probably are, such an approach is falsely labeled as “communism” by MAGA anti-social assholes.

false labeling- Your lack of introspection is wild lol

Ad Hominem is only bad if it's used against my in-group

Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by tmoertel »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #135
tmoertel wrote: post #110

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> Is there a good reason why a developer in Thailand or India should be paid less than their colleague who works on the same team, but is based in the US? Yes, and that reason is that people in most of the developed world are free to say yes or no to job offers based on their individual preferences. And, it just so happens, in Thailand and India there are many people who will happily say yes to offers that people in…

My understanding is that top talent gets top pay, regardless of their living arrangements. Mediocre talent ... maybe not so much, but these are also the folks that could be replaced by AI.

> My understanding is that top talent gets top pay, regardless of their living arrangements.

Indeed. Top talent can say no to lower offers because they are confident that companies are unlikely to find other top candidates who will say yes.

Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by glommer »

dfxm12 wrote: post #136
mlissner wrote: post #87

Maine's remote work program is an incredibly promising development to prevent recidivism. The amazing thing about it is that it gives real jobs to prisoners that they can seamlessly continue after they get out of prison. Normally when you get out, it's impossible to get a job, and the clock is ticking. This leads to desperation, which leads to bad behavior. There is a real risk of exploitation, but if it's properly m…

Do participants get paid a real wage?

Preston was free to negotiate his pay with us, and we pay him a full salary. Just no health care benefits.

Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by glommer »

999900000999 wrote: post #142
glommer wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am the Turso CEO. We pay him a full salary, just not health care benefits.

Your doing the Lord's work. Even if you just paid him the state minimum wage, it would stop him from having a giant employment gap. The next step would be background check reform. A DUI record isn't relevant to anything not involving driving. Excluding a very small handful of SVU level crimes everything should be wiped clean after 5 years or so. I had an experience with a co worker who would brag about robbing people…

The Lord is doing His work, in Preston's heart. I am very humbled to given a chance to be a part of this.

Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by Macha »

stronglikedan wrote: post #80
code_for_monkey wrote: post #36

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shame were doing a large push to return to the office anyways

there's a good reason for that, fortunately or unfortunately. the numbers don't lie

Now if only someone could produce those numbers...

Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by ty6853 »

giraffe_lady wrote: post #60
glommer wrote: post #37

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I am the one who hired Preston. Whatever he has done in the past, I have all the evidence in the world in front of me to assure me that he has a transformed heart. It is not a common thing to see, but here the fruits are clear. We are happy to have him with us.

So you've spoken to the wife?

The vast vast majority of DV complaints are unsubstantiated, so speaking to the wife is generally a poor predictor of whether the presumption of innocence will be overcome.

Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by glommer »

abxyz wrote: post #57
glommer wrote: post #37

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I am the one who hired Preston. Whatever he has done in the past, I have all the evidence in the world in front of me to assure me that he has a transformed heart. It is not a common thing to see, but here the fruits are clear. We are happy to have him with us.

If you're going to extend kindness to Preston then perhaps a little kindness towards others wouldn't go a miss either. Preston isn't rare, the prison system is filled with normal kind hearted people who were unfortunate in life and things went awry. Everyone deserves a chance, not just someone who can provide economic value to you.

You seem like a very bitter person trying to find issues where there are none.

Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by dfxm12 »

ty6853 wrote: post #130
lo_zamoyski wrote: post #117

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This sounds good. It is important that we recognize all of the purposes of punishment instead of overemphasizing one or neglecting the other. Punishment has three ends: retribution, rehabilitation, and deterrence. It is important that you pay for your crime for the sake of justice; it is charitable and prudent to rehabilitate the criminal, satisfying the corrective end of punishment; and would-be criminals must be gi…

One of the most baffling elements of the justice system is how little the victim is involved in the justice. 'Society' should not lord the lion's share of the justice decisions over the victims. Quite often the victim would prefer compensation and release over getting fuck all while the perpetrator languages in prison at the tax dollar of the victim. Much of 'justice' has been usurped from the victim into a jobs camp…

I think you're confusing or conflating civil and criminal courts. If someone breaks a law, that's generally a matter for the state to decide in a criminal court. If someone was damaged (i.e. if the victim feels the perpetrator owes them compensation), that's a matter for them to bring up themselves in the civil courts. These are separate functions; one situation could be tried in both courts. A famous example off the top of my head is that even though OJ Simpson wasn't criminally convicted of murder of Nicole Brown and Ronald Goldman, a civil court found him liable, awarding tens of millions of dollars in damages, to be paid to their families.
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