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Danish Ministry Replaces Windows and Microsoft Office with Linux and LibreOffice

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Re: Danish Ministry Replaces Windows and Microsoft Office with Linux and LibreOffice

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LibreOffice is terrible. I cannot believe how anyone can do anything with it. I cannot stand Word but it's just impossible to find a true replacement for it. OnlyOffice should get more recognition. It is the closest you can get for Word replacement

How is it terrible? I keep hearing people say this, but I've never actually experienced any shortcomings personally. Granted, I don't really use word processors much. But when I did, I never had any.

Re: Danish Ministry Replaces Windows and Microsoft Office with Linux and LibreOffice

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Lack of features is not an excuse for a government to adopt proprietary software. Surely, the Danish government can figure out how to support real-time collaboration in LibreOffice.

I believe the Danish gov is roughly spending 50M EUR/year to MS, certainly you can get the features needed paying for dev time for an open source project with some of that spend.

Not that it is insurmountable -- but the difficulty with adopting open source more broadly often isn't a financial issue, but organizational. A successful enterprise software deployment consists of a lot more than simply paying developers. You need the correct management in place to ensure the developers are building the right features, to ensure they meet your organizations needs in terms of compliance, deployment, support, ensure your users understand how to use the product, etc. Organizations that are familiar with software development can often do this, but these types of projects are sometimes beyond the reach of the expertise of other organizations.

Re: Danish Ministry Replaces Windows and Microsoft Office with Linux and LibreOffice

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This is a particular brand of take strikes me as lazy. In general, each type of product is going to have some core features that almost everyone needs. And then there's going to be a long tail of features that fewer and fewer users need to make use of the tool effectively. Office tools like LibreOffice and Google Sheets strike a sort of 80/20, where they can build perhaps less than half the features of the totally co…

I would go further and say that MS products have completely backwards priorities that lead to an overinflated feature count. What good is fancy formatting in excel if it chokes and crashes once the file hits about 20 MB? Yet despite all this emphasis on form over function over multiple decades of being a flagship product for a multibillion dollar software empire, it still produces plots that are unacceptable for publ…

It's possible you found a bug in Excel somewhere but I guarantee that when working with large files it's generally faster and more reliable than the competition. I have successfully worked with files way larger than 20 MB which make competing products such as Apple Numbers or Google Sheets completely choke.

Re: Danish Ministry Replaces Windows and Microsoft Office with Linux and LibreOffice

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Has Linux... won?

In the sense that ordinary users are considering it and no longer gasp in horror at the thought, yes.

98% of regular personal computer users still don't know what "a Linux" is, unfortunately.

Re: Danish Ministry Replaces Windows and Microsoft Office with Linux and LibreOffice

#145

LibreOffice is great, but not supporting multiple users simultaneously editing the same document is a serious limitation compared to proprietary solutions such as MS Office and Google Workspace. Also, replacing Windows by Linux and MS Office by LibreOffice is only the surface of the problem. What about replacing Entra (identity and access management), Intune (endpoint management), file sharing (OneDrive), email and c…

Lack of features is not an excuse for a government to adopt proprietary software. Surely, the Danish government can figure out how to support real-time collaboration in LibreOffice.

It doesn't need an excuse; it's a fully valid reason. Using proprietary software is a perfectly valid choice to make.

Re: Danish Ministry Replaces Windows and Microsoft Office with Linux and LibreOffice

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I believe the Danish gov is roughly spending 50M EUR/year to MS, certainly you can get the features needed paying for dev time for an open source project with some of that spend.

Not that it is insurmountable -- but the difficulty with adopting open source more broadly often isn't a financial issue, but organizational. A successful enterprise software deployment consists of a lot more than simply paying developers. You need the correct management in place to ensure the developers are building the right features, to ensure they meet your organizations needs in terms of compliance, deployment,…

Absolutely, management and maturity are key to success in this regard.

Re: Danish Ministry Replaces Windows and Microsoft Office with Linux and LibreOffice

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"We cannot leave the security of Europe in the hands of voters in Wisconsin every 4 years" - French Minister Delegate for European Affairs.

Which is what Trump seems to want. A Europe not totally dependent on the American taxpayers for their own self defense and their own global power projection agendas. Many countries like Germany are quite far from that. France is more of a leader in that regard. Although abandoning commercial American software wholesale would likely degrade their own security and GDPs even further than it already is.

Both the Biden and Trump administrations have generally opposed European efforts to reduce reliance on foreign arms - The "Buy European" strategy.

The Trump administration seems to be pursuing a dual strategy: publicly demanding Europe be more self-sufficient while simultaneously trying to ensure U.S. economic and strategic interests are not sidelined in the process. Basically "Pay us more for less". Let's see how the NATO summit goes at the end of this month.

Re: Danish Ministry Replaces Windows and Microsoft Office with Linux and LibreOffice

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Or maybe Microsoft is terrified that it will work? Then Bill Gates would not be able to do his 345th pledge of "I will give away all my money..." https://www.freeipa.org/ "Manage Linux users and client hosts in your realm from one central location with CLI, Web UI or RPC access. Enable Single Sign On authentication for all your systems, services and applications." https://www.keycloak.org/ "Open Source Identity and A…

FYI Bill Gates stepped down as CEO in 2000.

"Bill Gates never left" - https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-still-pulling-str...

"...In fact, Business Insider has learned, Gates has been quietly orchestrating much of Microsoft's AI revolution from behind the scenes. Current and former executives say Gates remains intimately involved in the company's operations — advising on strategy, reviewing products, recruiting high-level executives, and nurturing Microsoft's crucial relationship with Sam Altman, the cofounder and CEO of OpenAI..."

Re: Danish Ministry Replaces Windows and Microsoft Office with Linux and LibreOffice

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Search is a deprecated feature?

I think they may have triggered a wrong search. Smart Lookup in Office is indeed deprecated and labeled Search. So right click on a word in a text, select Search and that will no longer work, but that wasn't searching in your text, but rather online.

that might indeed be the problem. I however did not find any other suitably marked element and CTRL+F apparently is too simple for outlook. Maybe you can select a single mail in the search bar...

Re: Danish Ministry Replaces Windows and Microsoft Office with Linux and LibreOffice

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Have to see it before I believe it. There is already danish laws, from back in the early 00s, stating that open source software should be used or developed in all cases where it is possible. The public IT provider and supporter Statens IT are so bad at their job that I cannot see how they would carry this out.
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