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Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by brewdad »

pyuser583 wrote: post #103
WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #16

Reminder that the authority under which the the US military is deployed against US citizens was intended to be used in exceptional (extreme) circumstances - ostensibly because no other options would suffice. The Insurrection Act authorizes the president to deploy military forces inside the United States to suppress rebellion or domestic violence or to enforce the law in certain situations. The statute implements Cong…

I read somewhere reliable Trump is not invoking the Insurrection Act. I’d cite my source, but can’t find it. I also can’t find anything saying he is invoking it. Do you have any specific source? Edit: I’ve found several sources that make It clear the Insurrection Act had not been invoked. https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/09/politics/insurrection-act-tru... - “Trump officials quietly discuss moves in LA that avoid invoking…

Then that makes this move illegal. Impeach him now.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by 0_____0 »

khazhoux wrote: post #120
daft_pink wrote: post #114

I lived through the BLM protests in a liberal city. They let them destroy everything, then they called in the National Guard to stop looting that already happened. Everyone’s okay with peaceful protests, but they should call in the national guard and prosecute people for violence. You might hate Trump, but in my previous experience, it’s the residents of the most liberal districts that suffer all the consequences of…

Now, did they really destroy “everything”?

Oakland had some boarded up windows for a while around then. The destruction of the window of the Chase branch in downtown was indeed complete, I think people might have broken it twice.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by brewdad »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #135
crmd wrote: post #4

I worry that, rather than de-escalation, one of the White House’s explicit goals here is to stage manage a Kent State-like demonstration of state force against left-wing activists that spreads to other cities. I sincerely hope I’m cynically wrong here.

And the optics of Kent State worked so well for the administration. Kind of like shooting reporters with rubber bullets.

About 35% of the country supported what the National Guard did at Kent State. Deplorable is being far too kind to these people.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by ptero »

anon84873628 wrote: post #121
daft_pink wrote: post #114

I lived through the BLM protests in a liberal city. They let them destroy everything, then they called in the National Guard to stop looting that already happened. Everyone’s okay with peaceful protests, but they should call in the national guard and prosecute people for violence. You might hate Trump, but in my previous experience, it’s the residents of the most liberal districts that suffer all the consequences of…

LA had plenty of local police to handle the scale of the protests (it's something like 88 different jurisdictions in the whole region). Of the 2000 national guard deployed, only 300 have actually been operationalized. There was hardly any looting or rioting. Certainly not more than could be handled locally. Trump is doing this to deliberately escalate the situation.

While I think you are right that Trump is doing this to escalate the situation,

> LA had plenty of local police to handle the scale of the protests before

sure, and why didn't they do it this time? I suspect for the same reason: both Bass and Newsom want to escalate the situation as well. And when both sides want escalation that's what we get. My 2c.

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Post by anon84873628 »

WatchDog wrote: post #118
lenerdenator wrote: post #81

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I'm not American, thus I had no vote in the election, nor do I like Trump for a number of reasons. However, enforcement of immigration laws has been one of the biggest parts of his election platform, if not the central part(build the wall, etc). I imagine his voters are happy to see some action being taken. The protestors could really do with some better optics, destroying property and waving foreign flags is just go…

I'm so tired of hearing this type of thing. "If the protesters would simply protest correctly, then I would respect them."

News flash. The opposition is always going to say something like this to set an impossible bar for the protestors. This type of thinking undermines all protests, protects the status quo, and basically boils down to victim blaming.

Not to mention you can always have false flag operatives undermining a movement.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by JKCalhoun »

brewdad wrote: post #143
JKCalhoun wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And the optics of Kent State worked so well for the administration. Kind of like shooting reporters with rubber bullets.

About 35% of the country supported what the National Guard did at Kent State. Deplorable is being far too kind to these people.

Not sure it would be a good idea to shoot US citizens for the 35% approval.

(But to your point, anything >0% is pretty horrible.)

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Post by bmandale »

WatchDog wrote: post #118
lenerdenator wrote: post #81

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I'm not American, thus I had no vote in the election, nor do I like Trump for a number of reasons. However, enforcement of immigration laws has been one of the biggest parts of his election platform, if not the central part(build the wall, etc). I imagine his voters are happy to see some action being taken. The protestors could really do with some better optics, destroying property and waving foreign flags is just go…

What good is a "PR win"? Nobody would have even heard about it if they'd marched peacefully, and if they had it would have changed nobodies minds, and otherwise changed nothing. The issues for which a simple march can have any influence at all on are the ones for which the powers that be don't have strong feelings on, where they can be swayed by seeing public support for the issue. Trump has well past dug in his heels on illegal immigration, and has a large base that backs him on it (as you recognize); a fully peaceful protest would have accomplished absolutely nothing.

There are issues worth rioting over. Maybe you don't feel that illegal immigration is one of them, but you should at least understand the logic of a protest, and why sometimes becoming violent is necessary to accomplish anything.

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Post by jeffgreco »

IG_Semmelweiss wrote: post #85
hypeatei wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Here's hoping this is purely an optics play and they are only there to waste money and incite nationalism They don't deserve any benefit of the doubt at this point. Ask yourself what the MAGA reaction would've been to troops being deployed to their riot at the Capitol.

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Yes.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by ivape »

bix6 wrote: post #49

This is terrifying and unconscionable. Hard to believe this is the USA today. I don’t really see this de-escalating given the ongoing rhetoric but I hope I’m wrong.

It’s interesting ICE raided the outside of a Home Depot. Like, of all the immigrants, the immigrants that stand outside of Home Depot do the hardest physical labor. There’s no heart to what’s going on.
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