Live data from Hacker News

xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

techcrunch.com

141–150 of 436 posts

Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

#141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Googles AI summaries, which are pinned to the top of results and can't be disabled You CAN disable them. Append -ai to your Google search query. You're welcome. Edit: curious why are people downvoting a helpful workaround?

or instead of searching for "best dog breeds for apartments" change it to "best f'in dog breeds for tiny s-hole apartments" - feels much more cathartic

You can say "fucking" and "shit" on HN

Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

#142

Telegram is a haven for scammers and malware authors, who frequently use it as a command and control channel. These scammers and malware authors can now seamlessly integrate Grok into their tools. Congrats everyone.

What is the alternative? Discord is just a PITA to use. I need to suggest something to a group of people that have been meeting online since 2007 (it's a small group with widely varying technical abilities/time).

Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

#143
post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please tell us what you believe this is telling us. You’ve left it up to interpretation and this feels more like a Reddit quality comment than one that the hackernews community deserves. In my opinion, it’s telling us that competition in the LLM space is accelerating and it’s anybody’s game right now. It’s important enough of a space that companies are willing to pay for exposure and squeeze out the competition. I’ve…

> “llm has no value so the providers are paying for people to use it”, I feel like for that to have been even possible to understand from that comment, then "not the other way around" couldn't have been there. If authors opinion was that LLMs has no value, why'd Telegram pay to use Grok? Maybe I'm just used to reading between the lines, but I think parents comment strike a fine balance between saying too much, saying…

They pretty much did say “not the other way around” with

“If these offerings were so great wouldn't we all be clamoring for it?”

The entire question is flawed. It’s a rhetorical question and the implication is “these offerings are not so great and we aren’t clamoring for it”.

I’d argue we are clamoring for it, and we have a lot of options here and they are all great options.

But since the rhetorical question is flawed you now have nothing to anchor on to know exactly what OP meant because if they are flawed here that means whatever they meant in the first half of the comment is also likely flawed.

Maybe you’re not as good at reading between the lines, or the line in general, as much as you think you are and you’re actually the LCD that would be served by a deeper comment.

The whole point of the comment is that it is “telling” of something but the commenter at this point could come back and basically go in any direction. That’s an indication the comment is not saying enough…

Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

#144

> Telegram is the most popular messaging app in Iran and Uzbekistan [1] > Telegram’s largest market is India, which accounts for more than 20% of its userbase. Telegram also has a large amount of users in countries with heavy censorship and surveillance, such as Iran, Russia, and Uzbekistan. [1] > Percentage of users via region: Asia 38%, Europe 27%, Latin America 21%, MEMA 8% [1] It sure is valuable data - if you ar…

[flagged]

Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

#145
post #6

Feels oh so telling that xAI has to pay Telegram and not the other way around. If these offerings were so great wouldn't we all be clamoring for it?

Or, y'know, there's a lot of AI vendors and Telegram doesn't need to pay for it because they have something to offer.

Hacker news users will consistently use the dumbest arguments to try and poo-poo AI.

Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

#146
post #15
post #6

Feels oh so telling that xAI has to pay Telegram and not the other way around. If these offerings were so great wouldn't we all be clamoring for it?

It's the next logical step after companies shoving AI into every corner of their own products regardless of whether their users want it - now they're paying other companies to shove AI things into their products regardless of whether their users want it. Genuine user interest doesn't come close to justifying their insane valuations so they have to put their thumb on the scale by shoving it everyones face and then pre…

We've seen multiple companies in the last twelve months blast past any past benchmark of fastest growing company ever. It's become pedestrian for some of these companies to scale to $10m ARR in a quarter which has never happened before.

"Genuine user interest doesn't come close to justifying their insane valuations" - classic HN copium

Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

#147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't underestimate it. https://www.arenaev.com/teslas_european_sales_keep_falling_w...

It’s fair to underestimate it when Tesla is still the dominant fully EV automaker globally and in all the markets that this article talks about.

By what metric(s)? Not being disingenuous, purely curious.

Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

#149
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the next logical step after companies shoving AI into every corner of their own products regardless of whether their users want it - now they're paying other companies to shove AI things into their products regardless of whether their users want it. Genuine user interest doesn't come close to justifying their insane valuations so they have to put their thumb on the scale by shoving it everyones face and then pre…

We've seen multiple companies in the last twelve months blast past any past benchmark of fastest growing company ever. It's become pedestrian for some of these companies to scale to $10m ARR in a quarter which has never happened before. "Genuine user interest doesn't come close to justifying their insane valuations" - classic HN copium

You sound like a Madoff investor

Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

#150
post #96
post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "Incidentally, have you got a moment to talk about the white genocide in south africa?" Is this some sort of joke, or are you genuinely wanting to discuss what's happening here in South Africa? If it's a joke, I think it's in very poor taste at the expense of a persecuted minority. I have seen it, experienced it, and know full well how real it is, no matter how much social-media pushes it one way or the other.

Musk’s AI Grok bot rants about ‘white genocide’ in South Africa in unrelated chats https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/may/14/elon-musk... OP is using it as an example of mismanagement.

Didn't someone discover the entire system prompt also?
Post reply on HN