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> I'm sure just like everything in your world this is a Jewish conspiracy... Try and avoid assumptions and ad hom's, if you want someone to read the rest of what you wrote.
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If you're ready to have a conversation, I'm game.
If you want to pathos-bait (or even worse, can't tell that you're doing it), then I've got more interesting people to talk to.
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I think everyone forgets just how much money Palestinians receive, effectively because of the war with Israel (or they wouldn't receive anywhere near this amount without that war). This guarantees the war continues. None of the states in the middle east around Israel are anywhere close to Palestine, economically. What Palestinians are receiving amounts to $1000/person (or $13000/person/yr) for nothing . That doesn't…
You have to discount Gaza's economic development by needing to rebuild their infrastructure every few years and a complete blockade since 2007. Why is there so much per capita aid to Gaza? Because Israel prevents them from having a functioning economy. Why does Israel prevent that? Because then it would have to bargain with a stronger counterparty for an ultimate resolution. Until Israel realizes that it either needs…
Israel tends to eventually destroy infrastructure that's (dual-)used to increase Hamas terror infrastructure. Unfortunately, that's virtually all of existing infrastructure right now.
Why hasn't Gaza normalized it's relationship with Egypt? They have closed their borders to Gaza as well because Hamas is friends with Muslim brotherhood and apparently Egypt thinks a proper border with Gaza would do harm to Egypt.
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You have to discount Gaza's economic development by needing to rebuild their infrastructure every few years and a complete blockade since 2007. Why is there so much per capita aid to Gaza? Because Israel prevents them from having a functioning economy. Why does Israel prevent that? Because then it would have to bargain with a stronger counterparty for an ultimate resolution. Until Israel realizes that it either needs…
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Leadership is a different matter. Hamas is a terror organization, they achieve their goals by means of terror and that's what defined them. So they of course want terror. Don't know much about Fatah, but they seem to be much more interested in political solutions.
Israel gives them a hard time though as they keep demonstrating that they want to replace the Arab population in the westbank with Jewish settlers.
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You have to discount Gaza's economic development by needing to rebuild their infrastructure every few years and a complete blockade since 2007. Why is there so much per capita aid to Gaza? Because Israel prevents them from having a functioning economy. Why does Israel prevent that? Because then it would have to bargain with a stronger counterparty for an ultimate resolution. Until Israel realizes that it either needs…
I don't think your provoking theory holds because before the massacre on 7th October, the situation between Gaza and Israel was improving. That's also why intelligence didn't think Hamas would start such a massacre. Israel tends to eventually destroy infrastructure that's (dual-)used to increase Hamas terror infrastructure. Unfortunately, that's virtually all of existing infrastructure right now. Why hasn't Gaza norm…
The border is controlled by Israel. Egypt US and Israel has a tripartite treaty to have Egypt act as a mere watchdog on the border. This border crossing is now controlled by Israel. The sea is controlled by Israel, and has fixed and detained any maritime peace activities, read the floatilla raid on Palestinian waters. Maybe we should be holding accountable those who call themselves to a democratic nation than a party in a small bombed out piece of land.
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“ Palestinians didn't do the holocaust. On the contrary, they took Jewish people in - on condition that no one would try and form an ethno-state” Before World War II, the land was British Mandate Palestine, which was previously part of the Ottoman Empire. It was a land with a mixed population and growing nationalist movements among both Jews and Arabs. Balfour Declaration 1917 “His Majesty's Government view with favo…
Please do mention the Dalet Plan, the massacres of the Palestinians by Zionists, and how the war broke out. Also killing UN mediators by Zionists would something to complete the history lesson, rather than Palestinians rejected. Wow, who would have thought people would reject taking their land and giving it to somebody else! And also mention the rejection by Zionists of the count Bernadotte's plan. So the Zionists just killed the one who made the plan, so whoever came after him just gave more land to Zionists.
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That's really not more chilling. I recommend actually reading the document. There are multi billion dollar cuts to IT programs and CISA/cyber security infrastructure, along with massive cuts to basic research, EPA protections and toxic site cleanup, and basic social services, the list goes on. Instead we're plowing extra money into military spending, but because the defense budget is already so bloated it amounts to…
If we’re investing in securing the border with a significant chunk of that defense spending that’ll save us a lot more over time, presuming the democratic presidents of the future don’t proverbially throw the gates open.
Hell just ask an llm. https://chatgpt.com/share/682b50c5-27ac-8004-b217-dc3748bf11...
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I don't think most Palestinians want the war. Most of them just want to love their lives just as most people in the world do. When people voted for Hamas back then, they specifically didn't wanted what Hamas did afterwards. At least I have seen polls that strongly indicate that. People were angry back then that there wasn't enough progress on the matter. Leadership is a different matter. Hamas is a terror organizatio…
Not the "war or peace, with no further consequences" fake choice people like to pretend exists?
The Israel-Palestine conflict always was a proxy war. Maybe less so on Israel's side, but always on the muslim/Arab side, even before it started. Peace would mean support from the proxies stops and Israeli and Palestinians would have to care for themselves. Aid would drop to the level anyone else gets (which isn't even 1/4th of what they currently officially get, more like 1/20th, and probably even less if you count unofficial "aid")
Given that choice, the real choice, war or desperate poverty, what do Palestinians want? Frankly, if we look at history, I'd argue it historically took a lot less than what is bound to happen in Palestine to get people to start a war. For example, the French revolution was preceded and at least partly caused by a tax increase of 16%. This would be an effective 75% to 90% tax increase.
Oh and to add insult to injury, of course, stopping the war would mean economic disaster on the Palestinian side, but it would ALSO mean an immediate economic boom like nothing before on the Israeli side. Palestinians would be forced into desperate poverty ... and Israeli may see their wages double at the same time, for the same reason.
This conflict cannot end with this level of aid provided to the Palestinian side. It just can't.
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I don't think your provoking theory holds because before the massacre on 7th October, the situation between Gaza and Israel was improving. That's also why intelligence didn't think Hamas would start such a massacre. Israel tends to eventually destroy infrastructure that's (dual-)used to increase Hamas terror infrastructure. Unfortunately, that's virtually all of existing infrastructure right now. Why hasn't Gaza norm…
>Why hasn't Gaza normalized it's relationship with Egypt? The border is controlled by Israel. Egypt US and Israel has a tripartite treaty to have Egypt act as a mere watchdog on the border. This border crossing is now controlled by Israel. The sea is controlled by Israel, and has fixed and detained any maritime peace activities, read the floatilla raid on Palestinian waters. Maybe we should be holding accountable tho…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafah_Border_Crossing#2005:_Is...
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holds up mirror If you're ready to have a conversation, I'm game. If you want to pathos-bait (or even worse, can't tell that you're doing it), then I've got more interesting people to talk to.
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If we’re investing in securing the border with a significant chunk of that defense spending that’ll save us a lot more over time, presuming the democratic presidents of the future don’t proverbially throw the gates open.
This is false. A prediction of "securing our border will save money" is false. It really, really is. Check your sources and approach this as a scientist trying to verify your idea, not as a partisan and trying to defend it. You will quickly see that even illegal immigration is not a cost, especially to the federal government. Hell just ask an llm. https://chatgpt.com/share/682b50c5-27ac-8004-b217-dc3748bf11...