Android and Wear OS are getting a redesign • Hacker News Board

Re: Android and Wear OS are getting a redesign

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Post by saubeidl » Thu, May 15, 2025, 7:02 PM UTC

JamesSwift wrote: post #130

no_wizard wrote: post #78

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Which was what exactly? I always felt they had a nebulous definition

I havent daily driven android with material 3, so I cant comment on what current state is, but original material was basically a heavy emphasis on "real world" z-index, thinking of your UI like a stack of documents on a table, + a "kinetic" feel. EDIT: also, I have to say as someone who did a lot of app dev on both iOS and android, I really appreciate the design system that google came up with in terms of codifying a…

As another android dev, I miss OG material. The shadow elevation thing was really cool.

Re: Android and Wear OS are getting a redesign

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Post by aucisson_masque » Thu, May 15, 2025, 7:47 PM UTC

int0x29 wrote: post #83

aucisson_masque wrote: post #60

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Pixel have other issue, quality control and run on Samsung exynos hardware with bad performance and connectivity. I'd argue that Android is technically more open than iOS but in practice it isn't. Google have dark pattern and elaborated ways to get Android user to stay in the 'walled Google play service garden'. Like when you install a third party store and Google play protect warns you it may be insecure. Or having…

I have fdroid installed on a pixel and I didn't hit any warnings beyond needing to enable side loading. As for push notifications, if you are developing an app, you can build your own infrastructure for that or rent it from someone else. If you are concerned about google software you can, with effort, reflash with another OS. All of the above either don't exist on iOS or only exists in the EU. Personally I've never h…

The issue with push notification isn't for the app you build yourself but all the other like your bank app, it won't be able to send you a message when you got to validate something or when my Xiaomi cleaning robot is done cleaning for instance. They all require Google play services.

Reflashing another os ? What issue does it solves ? It's less secure, they still need the Google play services to push notifications.

Grapheneos may be a bit better but it locks you to only one Android device : pixel. They are overpriced, have quality control issue and run poorly.

900€ for a pixel 9 that use Samsung hardware, overheat when I can get a s25 for the same price, that funnily enough don't use Samsung hardware but Qualcomm :)

I believe 900€ is enough even for an iphone that will run much better than pixel.

> Personally I've never had issues with Samsung modems and I am honestly confused what people are doing with their phones that require high power CPUs.

I couldn't care less too about CPU power, but cpu energy usage and the phone being able to make and receive call is what's been the issue with pixel since the 6.

Re: Android and Wear OS are getting a redesign

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Post by pirates » Thu, May 15, 2025, 8:31 PM UTC

the_sleaze_ wrote: post #133

Am I the only one who -hates- these springy animations? I feel it introduces an artificial lag. When I tap I want instant response, I don't want to have to wait a half second for the boxes to complete their scale transforms. My canonical example is deleting message threads out of iOS Messages app. For every row in the list you need to swipe allll the way over to the left, wait for the stupid animation, click delete,…

You can use the three dots menu in the top right corner to Select Messages, drag or tap the buttons that appear, then Delete in the bottom right. That said you are definitely correct that in general this is a thing in the OS and sometimes there’s nothing you can do but wait.

Re: Android and Wear OS are getting a redesign

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Post by AndrewDucker » Thu, May 22, 2025, 10:34 AM UTC

ryandrake wrote: post #93

ranger_danger wrote: post #70

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You don't have to, you can still use headphones with a USB-C adapter.

I can’t believe, after so many YEARS, that people are still so hurt about the damn headphone jack. Even given the existence of adapters, some just won’t let it go and are willing to die on such a ridiculous hill. It’s like still being upset about computers not coming with CDROM drives anymore.

Can I buy headphones without headphone jacks that cost $5, can be transferred between devices near instantly with no registration, and allow me to charge my phone at the same time?

If not, then that is why I'm not shifting off of them.