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Re: Sam Altman Wants Your Eyeball

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Post by const_cast »

dmitrygr wrote: post #86
theyinwhy wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would people distrust governments more than companies? I never understood that part.

Because the government has more power over you. Thus, they deserve more scrutiny and suspicion.

True, but the government also has more accountability.

Exhibit A: freedom of speech. Public institutions have a very high bar they have to meet to ensure freedom of speech. The private sector has nothing of the sort.

You can be banned or censored for just about anything in the private sector. So when we move really important stuff to the private sector, that can be a problem.

In action: payment processors, which provide essentially public infrastructure, censoring immoral or profane content, such as pornography.

Re: Sam Altman Wants Your Eyeball

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Post by 4b11b4 »

sillyfluke wrote: post #100
the_d3f4ult wrote: post #88

I'm an ophthalmologist. I look at irises all day. People's irises change over the course of their life. Sometimes dramatically if they have some kind of pathology. Are they updating their model periodically? What keeps someone from getting locked out of their crypto gains if they develop an iris nevus or have cataract surgery or start on flomax?

Thanks for this interesting point of view. However, it may makes sense to consider whether the gap you point to can be reduced significantly with AI, by training it separately with aging eye data using existing medical data independent from the general iris pool. I have no idea how realistic that would be personally.

lol

Re: Sam Altman Wants Your Eyeball

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Post by tim333 »

ipaddr wrote: post #102
tim333 wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's kind of different in that with 23andMe they know your name and genetic data. With Worldcoin you don't give your name and they just get a photo of your eyes.

So anyone who can scan your eyes can get into your bank account is very different compared to 23andme where you can give fake information as a name, buy a test with cash and they collect limited data that isn't worth much to advertisers. The first opens up many risks and surveillance opportunities that are different from the second where pooling of dna can link you to physical crimes or paternity confirmation where d…

No, the system doesn't work like that. The eye scan is just to check you don't get multiple accounts. After that it's like a crypto wallet with access by private key.

Re: Sam Altman Wants Your Eyeball

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Post by tim333 »

A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 wrote: post #79
tim333 wrote: post #70

I did the worldcoin scan thing a couple of years ago and it's all quite jolly. The article is a bit scaremongering. Re: >Simply put, the premise is this: scan your eyeball, get a biometric tag, verify yourself, buy our apps (and cryptocurrency). ... Minority Report style technology it's not really like that. They take a photo of your eye to check you are a new person and not someone who has an account already, then g…

I would ask that you elaborate a little more. I am an example of one. I like LLMs, but I cringe internally and externally at times at some of the things people seem to want to use them for ( and I just saw a presentation that basically said the equivalent of "add AI here, happy sunshine leaves there". And how? Magic. Nobody knows. ). I like crypto, but it is impossible to not see million rugpulls, scams and so on out…

I guess so. It's pretty similar to getting a crypto wallet and some altcoin. I guess whether you find that interesting is down to the individual.

Re: Sam Altman Wants Your Eyeball

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Post by tim333 »

wnevets wrote: post #76
tim333 wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's kind of different in that with 23andMe they know your name and genetic data. With Worldcoin you don't give your name and they just get a photo of your eyes.

> they just get a photo of your eyes. this comes across as if you are attempting to downplay the importance of this biometric data which is weird considering Altman is paying to get access to just a photo of your eyes .

They are more paying to get you signed up to and using their payment system. The eye thing is not so different to most online banking wanting to see photo id and sometimes a selfie vid that matches to check who you are. Except they get less info - just the image, not your name, dob and id number which banks want.

Re: Sam Altman Wants Your Eyeball

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Post by tim333 »

tim333 wrote: post #145
A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would ask that you elaborate a little more. I am an example of one. I like LLMs, but I cringe internally and externally at times at some of the things people seem to want to use them for ( and I just saw a presentation that basically said the equivalent of "add AI here, happy sunshine leaves there". And how? Magic. Nobody knows. ). I like crypto, but it is impossible to not see million rugpulls, scams and so on out…

I guess so. It's pretty similar to getting a crypto wallet and some altcoin. I guess whether you find that interesting is down to the individual.

Another thing - I just logged in and they have mini apps in the world app including one paying 61% interest to deposit your worldcoins. It's like a whole ponzi-economy in there!

Re: Sam Altman Wants Your Eyeball

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Post by tim333 »

the_d3f4ult wrote: post #88

I'm an ophthalmologist. I look at irises all day. People's irises change over the course of their life. Sometimes dramatically if they have some kind of pathology. Are they updating their model periodically? What keeps someone from getting locked out of their crypto gains if they develop an iris nevus or have cataract surgery or start on flomax?

The iris thing is only used to open an account to stop you getting multiple accounts. After that access is private key. Maybe I'll try going back for a second account!? My irises may be different enough 2 years on?

Re: Sam Altman Wants Your Eyeball

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Post by tim333 »

caseyy wrote: post #69

Meanwhile, in reality, banks have solved proof of humanity, identity (KYC), and financial services for a long time. Any account in the world can be proven human by making a debit/credit card transaction from a card with a matching name. For the first time, you can now give your biometrics to OpenAI to do nothing more than you already can. This is just a pure cult of personality.

Worldcoin is supposed to be anonymous - you don't give your name. A theory behind it was on things like HN you could show you were human without having to do a KYC id proof, though that never took off, at least in two years I haven't come across it. In practice it works as number go up crypto ponzi like most of that field.

Re: Sam Altman Wants Your Eyeball

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Post by _Algernon_ »

9283409232 wrote: post #3

Why are these rich assholes so obsessed with tracking everyone? > Tools for Humanity bragged about many large partnerships that should make any privacy advocates shiver in dread: the Match Group dating apps conglomerate (Tinder, OkCupid, Hinge, Plenty of Fish), Stripe, and Visa are some of them. Visa and Stripe being involved in this should indeed make everyone shiver and push back against this. Altman is not a good…

Information is a prerequisite for manipulating the masses. The writing has been on the wall on that front since at least Cambridge Analytica.
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