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Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by pests »

browningstreet wrote: post #130
rectang wrote: post #62

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> Something not roasted to a charred crisp (looking at you, Starbucks). Not everyone is going to like less-roasted beans. Less roasted beans have strong, distinct flavors which might be characterized as "green" or "floral" or "woodsy", and it's true that a lot of the individuality of the bean varieties is obscured by darker roasts. But I for one usually prefer the standard roasts of the mainstream vendors over the li…

Third wave coffee roasters, like Revolution or Counter Culture, always taste distinctly sour. I can't drink those at all. I personally prefer medium to dark roasts.. even when I'm drinking them black. I wish I could find the word that describes the lighter roast taste that I don't like (to me, it's the IPA of coffee) because I have yet to be able to walk into a coffee roaster and ask them, "Is your coffee ?" so I kno…

Does it taste at all like skunked beer?

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by DrillShopper »

werdnapk wrote: post #70
dgunay wrote: post #11

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That's pretty much how a french press works, if anyone wants to try it. Loads of cheap french presses available everywhere. It's very portable too if you need to make coffee and have nothing but water, heat, and ground coffee.

An aeropress is really an amazing piece of coffee making gear. I used to use one when I was on a budget and found it to be the best method of making coffee for little investment. There are a few tips and tricks worth looking up, but once you have things sorted out, it brews great coffee.

All of those things are true, and I'd like to echo them as a longtime Aeropress owner and enjoyer.

One other factor that matters for some, including me, is that nobody else in my family drinks coffee, and the Aeropress is an incredibly great way of doing coffee for one that with maximum results and minimum cleanup.

Other people in my family drink tea, so we keep a teapot and the Aeropress immediately next to the kettle and it works out great for us.

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by rectang »

Kirby64 wrote: post #138
rectang wrote: post #133

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The terminology is subjective, and the idea that something someone somewhere on the internet characterizes as “woodsy” necessarily is defective is going to result in a lot of false rejects.

Woodsy, grassy, and floral all have pretty collective meanings in the coffee world. Sure, some random person can claim something is grassy when its not... but if you're asking a coffee professional, it's not that subjective.

Leave it to the experts to make the experience of discussing anything miserable for the amateurs.

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by mastazi »

iamthemonster wrote: post #125

It's quite interesting how coffee is treated in different cultures. In Australia, coffee would normally be consumed as a dark roast, but with texturised (that is aerated and steamed to create a microfoam). Dark roast coffee is less acidic, and when made into an espresso + texturised milk drink it becomes very sweet and smooth tasting. Light roasts used in espresso-based milky drinks are not so pleasant, and are more…

> In Australia, coffee would normally be consumed as a dark roast

I live in Sydney and I mostly drink espresso shots (no milk), the roast is very noticeable to me due to the type of coffee I drink.

I would say at least half of all cafes that I've tried use a light roast for black coffee, and dark roast for milk-based drinks.

Italian-style cafes and non-specialty big chains, use dark roast for everything. But that's becoming less and less common especially in fancier establishment.

This is based on my experience in the CBD, Lower North Shore and Inner West. YMMV

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by bschwindHN »

timewizard wrote: post #136
yoko888 wrote: post #122

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I always recommend an Americano (or a Long Black). It's an Espresso shot with hot water added. It drinks like a coffee but much of the bitterness is removed and the underlying flavor of the coffee is revealed. With a good quality coffee I rarely feel the need to add milk or sugar.

Everyone has their own opinions, but to me an Americano is the worst form of black coffee. Espresso blends are typically on the darker side (more bitter), and often include Robusta beans in their blends to produce more crema. Robusta doesn't have a particularly great flavor on its own, some (including me) liken the taste to burnt rubber.

I think the clearest way to show someone how different "black coffee" can taste is to go to one of the extremes - pour over, hot or iced, with a light-roast bean from Africa, perhaps with a Natural or Anaerobic Natural process. You can get some pretty insane flavors out of a bean just by the processing it goes through after picking the coffee cherries. They can sometimes blur the lines between coffee and tea flavors.

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by bschwindHN »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #44
maxwellg wrote: post #37

During Covid I spent a lot of time on my home coffee setup - I've since dialed it back but I've kept the pourover, the grinder, and the Chemex. We found a local business that roasts beans in their garage that we love. The biggest problem is that really good coffee ruins bad coffee foreger. After making my own for so long, traveling and dealing with gas station or hotel breakfast coffee is especially jarring. Sometime…

There are two kinds of coffee in my brain: Third wave fancy coffee I make at home in our Chemex or Technivorm or get in really really good shops, as you describe. McDonald's, gas station, donut shop coffee. It's swill but you confectionize it with cream and sugar. Double double as we say up here. It's not good, but it it's a utility. You just don't expect much from it, and that's fine The problem coffee is the stuff…

> Grocery store whole bean coffees that markets itself in a nice bag but turns out to be stale oily overroasted mediocrity

You hit the nail on the head with this one. Disappointment tastes so much worse than the humble donut shop coffee.

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by kasey_junk »

browningstreet wrote: post #130
rectang wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Something not roasted to a charred crisp (looking at you, Starbucks). Not everyone is going to like less-roasted beans. Less roasted beans have strong, distinct flavors which might be characterized as "green" or "floral" or "woodsy", and it's true that a lot of the individuality of the bean varieties is obscured by darker roasts. But I for one usually prefer the standard roasts of the mainstream vendors over the li…

Third wave coffee roasters, like Revolution or Counter Culture, always taste distinctly sour. I can't drink those at all. I personally prefer medium to dark roasts.. even when I'm drinking them black. I wish I could find the word that describes the lighter roast taste that I don't like (to me, it's the IPA of coffee) because I have yet to be able to walk into a coffee roaster and ask them, "Is your coffee ?" so I kno…

Sour coffee frequently means the grind is too coarse for the bean or the coffee is not brewed long enough. Both of those are more common problems when working with lighter roasts.

You might experiment with the same bean and different grind settings to see if that helps with the taste you don’t like. Though age of the beans messes with this too which is maddening. Generally speaking though lighter roasts are more fiddly to brew so get messed up more frequently.

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by sham1 »

gorfian_robot wrote: post #66

OP should try nestea and save a lot of hassle. Next up: Restaurants for people who don't like food!

> Next up: Restaurants for people who don't like food!

This might come off as overly snarky, and if so, that isn't my intention, but isn't a restaurant for people who don't like food just fast food?

I mean, it's not like fast food is going to be that high quality overall, and is really meant to be eaten quickly without necessarily enjoying the experience.

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by [deleted] »

pton_xd wrote: post #10
nkrisc wrote: post #7

1. Good beans. Something not roasted to a charred crisp (looking at you, Starbucks). Eat a coffee bean by itself. If it tastes bad on its own, it’ll probably taste bad in the brew too. I enjoy munching a few beans while I make my coffee. 1.5 Buy your beans whole and grind them. It really makes a difference. 2. Clean water. If your water tastes bad, so will the coffee. I just use filtered water from the fridge. 3. No…

> Eat a coffee bean by itself. If it tastes bad on its own, it’ll probably taste bad in the brew too. I enjoy munching a few beans while I make my coffee. This just doesn't make sense to me. There are a great number of beans and vegetables that taste bitter or unpleasant "raw" but are very delicious with a bit of heat and time.

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